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Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

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Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#81
post #70

Stupid question: Is the warning going to show up for localhost i.e. using chrome to see the local dev version of your website?

It has for me with the Firefox version of this, and based on my experience of it sofar, this is fine. For one, it's an obvious differentiator between my local copy and live, but secondly I also think local certs are something that we really need to find a way to make easier for devs to set up and test with.

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#82
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few solutions: - Create a font such that every character shows up as a * and use it for a text input. - make the input field use white text on a white background using a fixed-width font, monitor length, and display the correct number of *'s above it using a div. - implement the text box ground up from scratch using div's and JS, like google docs does. - implement a HTTPS password field in an iframe and communicate…

Honestly, why would you do any of those things, now that installing a certificate takes 5 minutes and is free, with Let's Encrypt? I know that you're just exploring solutions because it's interesting, but all those things take longer than Let's Encrypt.

Because that is just not true in many cases. And let's encrypt is a big hassle if you can't automate the cert replacement.

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#83
post #72
post #70

Stupid question: Is the warning going to show up for localhost i.e. using chrome to see the local dev version of your website?

see chrome://flags to disable security warnings on localhost -- great for development

That's…actually quite smart, I wasn't aware of that.

Thanks -- this has solved an ongoing problem I was having with a couple of clients.

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#84
post #41

I hope they do this for CC numbers too, because I know of a website I had to use that passed your Name, address, CC number, CC exp, amount; the whole shebang over plain ol' http to do a payment shudder .

Honest question, who is in a position to tap your connection such that this becomes a serious security concern? IT staff at your company? The admins at your ISP? The NSA? I'm assuming that public wifi has session-specific encryption keys. I don't see these as the kinds of concerns that would warrant the kind of panic that some people seem to show over HTTP.

> I'm assuming that public wifi has session-specific encryption keys.

That's false for open wifi networks. Remember Firesheep? Just fire it up at your local coffeeshop and off you go.

Even for more secure public wifi like WPA2, vast majority of coffeeshops still don't change the default router admin passwords so you can take over it easily and listen in on all the traffic.

Further, it's not hard for some rando to setup a safe-looking access point and get people to connect to it. Camp out near an office with a router, I'm sure you'd get plenty of hits.

There's no shortage of attack vectors with no warrants required.

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#85
post #41

I hope they do this for CC numbers too, because I know of a website I had to use that passed your Name, address, CC number, CC exp, amount; the whole shebang over plain ol' http to do a payment shudder .

Honest question, who is in a position to tap your connection such that this becomes a serious security concern? IT staff at your company? The admins at your ISP? The NSA? I'm assuming that public wifi has session-specific encryption keys. I don't see these as the kinds of concerns that would warrant the kind of panic that some people seem to show over HTTP.

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Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#86
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few solutions: - Create a font such that every character shows up as a * and use it for a text input. - make the input field use white text on a white background using a fixed-width font, monitor length, and display the correct number of *'s above it using a div. - implement the text box ground up from scratch using div's and JS, like google docs does. - implement a HTTPS password field in an iframe and communicate…

Honestly, why would you do any of those things, now that installing a certificate takes 5 minutes and is free, with Let's Encrypt? I know that you're just exploring solutions because it's interesting, but all those things take longer than Let's Encrypt.

Have you ever been on a team at a large company? Tons of bureaucracy. You're correct that Let's Encrypt is the path of least resistance in a shop where you control everything. In many large companies the path of least resistance is tweaking whatever is in your immediate control (e.g. the text inputs / javascript you're writing).

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#87
post #3

Pm - "why is this page insecure" Developer - "chrome labels password fields as insecure over http" Pm - "what if it wasn't a password field"

I've seen that:

https://www.bancomer.com/index.jsp

Click "Acceso a clientes" and write numbers.

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#88
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Studies show [...] that users become blind to warnings that occur too frequently." So right now it would be counterproductive to mark all http pages as "not secure". But it's the long-term goal.

The majority of the big sites that people use (Google, GMail, Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, NYT, WaPo, etc.) are already being served using HTTPS. I think if a couple of HTTP sites an average user still browses start showing these warnings they will notice them. And what matters, the owners of those websites will notice them and will ask their "IT guy" hey "why our website is marked as insecure? I want a green lock like…

Their IT guy?? There are gazillions of people like me who have a blog, or some small project that has a small audience of tens to just a few thousand users. All these people now have to fork for SSL, or have to move everything to a different shared hosting that supports Let's Encrypt.

Re: Chrome 56 will mark HTTP pages with password fields as non-secure

#90
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would such a form need a password field?

Well, that is the whole point I'm trying to make. Why does chrome think I'm using a password on the page when there is no password? Anyway, Chrome will mark all http as insecure sooner or later so will just have to force https on all connections... There seems to be many people with similar problems of false positives for nonexistant passwords so I guess it's a bug.

Well...HTTP is insecure. That's what S in HTTPS stands for.
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