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Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by ensignavenger »

Humdeee wrote: post #79
ensignavenger wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do app developers get to set their own prices for foreign app stores? Or are the prices automatically and uncontrollably set by Apple, based on US app store prices?

Apple does pricing in tiers. Tier 0 (free) to tier 87 ($1000 USD). You choose a tier which correlates to a fixed price from a drop down menu. These tiers are converted to a localized price through all the stores. The same works for in-app purchases. Eg: Tier 87 is automatically $1399 CAD, as long as you allow that app to be available in the Canada App Store.

Thanks- Can a developer select one tier for the US and another tier for a different country?

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by Humdeee »

ensignavenger wrote: post #81
Humdeee wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple does pricing in tiers. Tier 0 (free) to tier 87 ($1000 USD). You choose a tier which correlates to a fixed price from a drop down menu. These tiers are converted to a localized price through all the stores. The same works for in-app purchases. Eg: Tier 87 is automatically $1399 CAD, as long as you allow that app to be available in the Canada App Store.

Thanks- Can a developer select one tier for the US and another tier for a different country?

Not with the sale price of the app at least. Just like there is a review process for the app, there is also a separate review process for in-app purchases. 1 tier across all countries for each in-app purchase and the initial sale price.

Now, with that being said, I have not seen an instance of a developer or seller abusing the localization API for this purpose... meaning forcibly charging other stores for the same in-app purchase content. A separate in-app purchase would have to be made in any case for other stores to route to. Apple has a pretty firm fist and I imagine location abuse like this may lead to the seller's account being banned or punished. It may be perfectly allowed however, I haven't dug too deep into the TOS.

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by ensignavenger »

Humdeee wrote: post #82
ensignavenger wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks- Can a developer select one tier for the US and another tier for a different country?

Not with the sale price of the app at least. Just like there is a review process for the app, there is also a separate review process for in-app purchases. 1 tier across all countries for each in-app purchase and the initial sale price. Now, with that being said, I have not seen an instance of a developer or seller abusing the localization API for this purpose... meaning forcibly charging other stores for the same in…

I'm not sure I understand your post? I was thinking along the lines of a developer picking a different tier for one territory over another because they disagreed with Apple's default pricing. Maybe they don't like the exchange rate, or they have unique localization costs associated with one territory, or they have additional licensing costs for one market over others. I wasn't really thinking about in-app purchases.

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by toyg »

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #76
toyg wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> for the UK joining NAFTA: politically impossible. Maybe not Nafta, but TTIP could probably be signed the day the UK leaves. Whether that's a good thing for the UK... eh.

TTIP is a proposed agreement between the Us and EU. Why would the UK want to ratify it, or even be invited to do so?

Because the UK was a (or even the) driving force behind that attempt, so Ms. May would probably be very happy to sign a quickly-relabelled draft - just s/EU/UK/g and off you go. After all, she will need a quick victory after the breakup, and a TTIP clone would be an easy one. TTIP drafts were always pretty unbalanced towards US interests, so Mr. Trump should be quite happy to sign it as well.

It would be very ironic, in the Morrissette sense: the spectre of TTIP ratification was used by Brexit supporter in the referendum campaign as a reason to leave the EU, and now we could end up being the only country that actually signs it.

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by Humdeee »

ensignavenger wrote: post #83
Humdeee wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not with the sale price of the app at least. Just like there is a review process for the app, there is also a separate review process for in-app purchases. 1 tier across all countries for each in-app purchase and the initial sale price. Now, with that being said, I have not seen an instance of a developer or seller abusing the localization API for this purpose... meaning forcibly charging other stores for the same in…

I'm not sure I understand your post? I was thinking along the lines of a developer picking a different tier for one territory over another because they disagreed with Apple's default pricing. Maybe they don't like the exchange rate, or they have unique localization costs associated with one territory, or they have additional licensing costs for one market over others. I wasn't really thinking about in-app purchases.

In that case no, you cannot set multiple tiers over multiple territories for the price of an app. There's no override for Apples default "1 tier fits all" pricing system as far as I know.

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by ianamartin »

hellogoodbyeeee wrote: post #69
ianamartin wrote: post #33

This is a great example of when to not use percentages in a headline. Or, you know, go for it! If you're trying to get clicks.

Could you elaborate? I don't understand what is wrong with the headline being a fact.

I will elaborate.

Percentages are not good measures of small quantities. 25 percent of zero is still zero.

It's not a meaningful number.

If you're dealing with small amounts, use small amounts. This is junk.

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by zigzigzag »

simonh wrote: post #40
mattmanser wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I should have been clearer, the analysts said there would be an immediate meltdown in the UK economy after the brexit vote if it was leave. That forecast was completely wrong, the opposite has happened. As it's widely been reported in the UK, in both lefty and righty papers, I'm surprised you've failed to see it. It's been mentioned every time we get a positive growth figure, or an unemployment fall, or whatever.

As has been mentioned on this thread before you posted, those analyses were based on the announced policy that article 50 would be triggered immediately. It wasn't. Long term Brexit is absolutely going to be disastrous for the UK economy, unless parliament can get us on to a soft-brexit EEA membership track. The tragedy is that the British economy was going well through the beginning of 2016 and after a bumpy road im…

those analyses were based on the announced policy that article 50 would be triggered immediately

Then they were naive analyses rather than expert analyses weren't they?

Did anyone seriously think Cameron would stay on to implement Brexit? Only someone utterly clueless about British politics could have thought that - it was obvious there'd be a leadership change in the event of a leave vote.

It is also obvious that Article 50 was deliberately botched, the guy who wrote it have said so explicitly. 2 years is a stupid choice for the amount of time available, designed specifically to discourage people from trying to leave. So assuming it'd be invoked immediately anyway was a very bad assumption.

No matter how you slice it, the so-called "experts" were completely wrong and excuses don't cut it.

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by ianamartin »

ojm wrote: post #35
ianamartin wrote: post #33

This is a great example of when to not use percentages in a headline. Or, you know, go for it! If you're trying to get clicks.

Did the prices rise by 25% in GBP or not?

Did the price of anything go up by 25% in GBP or not?

In this case, 25% doesn't matter. It's literally not a big deal. It's 50 pence.

There's another point to be made here that goes along the same lines as this horse-crap. It's this: shit it going to get weird when brexit happens.

Well, we don't know that yet. It's probably true, but we don't know for a fact yet.

But people post shit like this with bullshit click-bait titles, and then who knows what happens next? Why don't you just stop?

Why don't you fuck off until you know something for real is going to happen?

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by HeavenBanned »

csours wrote: post #59

Globalization generally makes things cheaper and easier for consumers, but will also reduce employment in certain areas. Restoring that employment is a separate track than reducing globalization - that is to say: you can de-globalize and exit whatever trade treaties you like, but those jobs you lost to globalization will not magically come back. Citizens have been sold a bill of goods in both directions when experts…

So then how do you stop the bleeding in the form of lost jobs to near slave-wage labor?

Re: Apple’s UK App Store prices will rise 25% following Brexit currency fluctuations

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Post by csours »

HeavenBanned wrote: post #89
csours wrote: post #59

Globalization generally makes things cheaper and easier for consumers, but will also reduce employment in certain areas. Restoring that employment is a separate track than reducing globalization - that is to say: you can de-globalize and exit whatever trade treaties you like, but those jobs you lost to globalization will not magically come back. Citizens have been sold a bill of goods in both directions when experts…

So then how do you stop the bleeding in the form of lost jobs to near slave-wage labor?

That is a very good question, and one that I wish more people would ask and consider the implications.

I don't know the answer to that question; I think most economists would tell you that you cannot and you should not try.

Many people talk about "job creation", but a lot of what we hear about job creation is political mumbo jumbo tax reduction bullshit.

Here are a few things that may help job creation from a political or government point of view:

1. Municipalities, State, and the Federal government should rationalize their requirements for starting and running a business. The US is already much better about this than other countries, but reducing bureaucratic friction is always good. This doesn't mean less government, it means smarter government.

2. One quick hit job creator is government infrastructure spending. The US did this after 2008, and so far it's turned out pretty well!

3. In the future there may be fewer jobs. Society needs to start seriously considering localized post-scarcity economies.

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