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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#82I just opened an Ubuntu VM where Firefox is the default and it feels like going ~10 years back: random messages, random prompts to accept, bloated interface etc.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#83At this point, it's not anymore about customer choice, the problem is systemic. Serving Google with the same kind of antitrust Microsoft got would be highly deserved and beneficial, but unfurtunately google made the political investments that Microsoft lacked. Which means we get to hear officials say Google is indeed in a situation deserving the antitrust, but it's fine "because their products bring value to customer…
Genuine question from someone not well versed in this topic but interested in learning more, can you give me some examples of what Google is doing that is abusive of their monopoly power, particularly as it relates to Chrome? I'm aware of some of the issues involving Android licensing/bundling of apps but not well informed on other aspects.
Yesterday they banned a privacy extension that doesn't fit their business model and forcefully removed it from users who already had it installed.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#84I just opened an Ubuntu VM where Firefox is the default and it feels like going ~10 years back: random messages, random prompts to accept, bloated interface etc. http://imgur.com/a/Wn7HL
Chrome does the same. This is mainly the VM's 800x600 and Unity.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#85People choose firefox over IE because firefox was better. People choose chrome over firefox and IE because chrome is better. Want to beat google? create better. Not negativity.
Not sure this is necessarily the case - Google cross-promoted Chrome extremely heavily across all its web properties, ran massive ad campaigns, and contractually obligated Android vendors to preinstall and use Chrome as the default on their handsets. Mozilla, lacking the power or money to do any of these things, wouldn't be able to compete on these fronts, regardless of who built the better product.
The also bundled Chrome with Flash, Adobe Reader, Java and such. I cannot remember exactly which, and it depends on geographic location.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#86People choose firefox over IE because firefox was better. People choose chrome over firefox and IE because chrome is better. Want to beat google? create better. Not negativity.
Better can mean more than just "faster" or "more responsive". This post argues that Firefox is better in that it does not lock you in in the long term.
Since it is not as visible as responsiveness, it is useful to have these discussions so people can decide what really is the "best" browser to them with full knowledge.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firefox was over reliant on plug-ins, gave plug-ins too much power and the plug-in as well as firefox update mechanisms were messy. Chrome did more out of the box than firefox reducing the need for plug-ins, sandboxed plug-ins from destroying general browser performance and most importantly realised that updating was not a user concern and performed updates silently. There were also other innovations that Chrome did…
> _That's_ why they "won" not because of fucking adverts. Given that Opera was basically "Chrome without Google marketing" I heavily doubt that. (The first version of Chrome was such a blatant Opera clone, it was just funny)
that's a fair point, I more wish to counter the idea that Firefox was a better or even equal product at the time. Chrome was a clearly superior product to Firefox.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#88I recently switched back to Firefox after years of using Chrome. Previously, the few times I had to fire up Firefox for development purposes it seemed sluggish to me. Not anymore. Firefox has been super responsive to me, using less memory than the same browsing activity would on Chrome & Firefox-only (afaik) add-ons like Self Destructing Cookies are A+. On Android, Firefox Mobile works just as good or better than Chr…
I tried Chrome when it first came out, but I always find myself going back to Firefox. I use Chrome only for the development tools or if I have to do anything that will only rely on Chrome, and if I do use Chrome it's on my laptop which has Chromium. I rather not have my whole browser linked to my entire email account.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#89People choose firefox over IE because firefox was better. People choose chrome over firefox and IE because chrome is better. Want to beat google? create better. Not negativity.
This is how I feel also. I want to use Firefox but Chrome just works better. Mostly things actually sync properly with Chrome. Tabs, settings, extensions, etc. I was a Firefox user since the Phoenix days but switched to Chrome exactly a year ago as Firefox just wasn't meeting all my needs. Want me to switch back? Then fix things like sync and transparent restore of the user profile on a new install, etc.
Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice (2014)
#90Also we should push for usage of https://duckduckgo.com.