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Re: How China Built ‘iPhone City’ with Billions in Perks for Apple’s Partner

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Post by parhurs » Tue, Jan 03, 2017, 5:08 PM UTC

berntb wrote: post #76

parhurs wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not addressing gp's points - that Maoist and "Modern China" are directly related and that "Modern China" is not "Euro style".

The Chinese industrialization and growth was mostly based on capitalism. Which is more of a Western economy than the Great Leap. Which was the point you comment on. (At least, compared to the failure before, with just central planning.) If you have anything contradicting that, it would be interesting? (Edit: Ah, I commented on a karma 23 secondary account? :-) )

I don't have anything to contradict it, since I'm not arguing either way. I just like pointing out communication issues in HN's discussions. What about the second point?

Re: How China Built ‘iPhone City’ with Billions in Perks for Apple’s Partner

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Post by parhurs » Tue, Jan 03, 2017, 5:11 PM UTC

inimino wrote: post #78

parhurs wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The question wasn't about other countries, it was about the US, specifically regulating the sale of products 'not buildable' in the US. Stated another way, if something is only built to be sold, why is only building it regulated; why not regulate selling it aswell?

If it is built in the US, regulating the sale would be redundant, as manufacture would already be illegal, and more ethically made products don't look any different. If you want, say, textile workers to have humane working conditions, you regulate the textile manufacturing industry, and you want enforcement officers in the garment district, not the retail district.

>If it is built in the US, regulating the sale would be redundant Obvious, but the question was about things NOT built in the US and actually illegal to build in the US. Why are they not illegal to sell there?

Re: How China Built ‘iPhone City’ with Billions in Perks for Apple’s Partner

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Post by inimino » Wed, Jan 04, 2017, 8:22 AM UTC

parhurs wrote: post #82

inimino wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it is built in the US, regulating the sale would be redundant, as manufacture would already be illegal, and more ethically made products don't look any different. If you want, say, textile workers to have humane working conditions, you regulate the textile manufacturing industry, and you want enforcement officers in the garment district, not the retail district.

>If it is built in the US, regulating the sale would be redundant Obvious, but the question was about things NOT built in the US and actually illegal to build in the US. Why are they not illegal to sell there?

First, as Americans seem so easily to forget, other countries actually have their own governments. Why should the US government try to enforce US labor laws inside the borders of other countries?

Second, trade agreements exist and are a more effective way to do what you want.

Third, it is impossible to tell how a product was made by looking at it. How would you enforce a law that makes a product illegal based on something invisible?