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iPhones send call history to Apple, security firm says

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Re: iPhones send call history to Apple, security firm says

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I've never enabled iCloud on any of my iOS devices, since I find it a bit creepy. What real benefits am i missing out on that outweigh the privacy aspects of not using it? Find my iPhone would seem to be an obvious benefit, but are there any others?

I'm only using "find my iphone" myself. The rest is of dubious use to me.

Re: iPhones send call history to Apple, security firm says

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No.

Yes. Not sure why people reject things about their favorite company without checking facts, just like religion. Even the account for which Tim Cook became the privacy crusader, they had already given his iCloud data. Also, here: http://www.apple.com/in/privacy/government-information-reque...

No.

I do not understand why this is even a discussion, either folks are being disingenuous on purpose, or maybe it is truly a matter of not understanding how it works.

Any data on iCloud which is not encrypted (for example: webmail) or Apple servers (example: Activation information) can definitely be requested by LE. This is a known fact, and as Apple has the data they are required by law to hand it over upon getting a proper subpoena for it. Whether they should be retaining those logs is another matter and can surely be debated.

With regards to iCloud data, the Keychain as well as a great deal of the stored data is now encrypted addditionally by your device passphrase. This is new, and was not the case for the SB iPhone 5c, for what it is worth.

Re: iPhones send call history to Apple, security firm says

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> Apple's Reply: >> Device data is encrypted with a user’s passcode, and access to iCloud data including backups requires the user’s Apple ID and password. Can't Apple ID password be reset? If so, how can it be a true encryption?

There may be a phrasing issue. Parts of iCloud data are protected with a device passphrase / passcode (or specifically: a encryption key generated based on that). Further, your iCloud account is protected with a password of course. So these are two layers of protection, not quite one or the other like the text may imply.

Re: iPhones send call history to Apple, security firm says

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It has to get from one device to another somehow, right? There's total[0] privacy and then there's degrees of privacy and convenience. You can't have total privacy and total convenience. At least not presently. [0] Total is one of those words like 'always' and 'never' that people should try and avoid. Myself included.

> You can't have total privacy and total convenience. At least not presently. Encrypt the data using a password you enter on both devices and only transfer it encrypted across network?

that's total convenience?

Re: iPhones send call history to Apple, security firm says

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Razr is what the startac should have been.

The razr came out 7 years after the startac - there's no way they could have built the razr with 1996 technology. That's like saying the McLaren F1 is what the ford model T should have been...

I was linking the startac as being the original Razr :)
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