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Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by replax »

ohstopitu wrote: post #80
bruce_one wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's all personal preference, but since Opera 12 I've been addicted to ctrl-tab for most recently used switching (Opera 12 had a nice tab switcher that made the interaction very understandable/manageable), and then alt-tab for switching in "physical" order. (I run a large number of tabs, and quickly switching between two (or a small number) that I've used recently seems to be a common interaction for me - but then be…

a feature that I've loved about Vivaldi (and vimium on chrome) is the spotlight like search for tabs. When you run a lot (~30-40) of tabs, that's an killer feature right away!

Pentadactyl for Firefox also allows that (press 'b') and it's absolutely amazing. Way quicker than searching for the tab visually and manoeuvring the mouse to it on a notebook.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by hsivonen »

dbl9 wrote: post #59
kbenson wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On windows, Firefox is the main supplier of binaries. I would hazard that on most Linux/BSD systems, the distribution is the main supplier of binaries. The distributions can easily build it as GTK2 if they want, or provide a GTK2 variant (and as pointed out above, some distributions seem to, or at least make it easy to build it yourself). If you are on Linux and your distribution provides Firefox, this is a complaint…

In the past the GTK3 code path was tested only by Red Hat as the primary developer of all things GTK and GNOME. At that time, there was only a GTK2 build from Mozilla, and now instead of doing the same as Windows 32-bit/64-bit we're presented with just GTK3 support with the promise to obsolete the GTK2 code, while seemingly not considering the regressions of GTK3. Why do we use Mozilla binaries of Firefox on linux di…

The "EME-free" build differs only by the default value for the "Play DRM content" checkbox. You can put a normal build in the equivalent state by unchecking the checkbox.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by chris_wot »

What are people's opinions of it's developer tools features compared to Chrome? in particular, how does it compare in terms of running a HTTP trace?

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by mrinterweb »

Aardwolf wrote: post #24

"Set a preference to have Ctrl+Tab cycle through tabs in recently used order " Finally something that is an actually improved UI feature! Not some "removed status bar and instead hover its info over text you want to read sometimes" or "moved refresh button to different place than before just to annoy you" or similar thing :)

Years ago, this used to be the default in Firefox. Since Ctrl+Tab has not been the default, I've been using Ctrl+Tab extension. Other browser like Chrome do not provide APIs to allow extensions access to override tab order. Accessing tabs by order of last used, is a requirement for my daily web browsing, which is why I've stuck with Firefox for so long. I'm glad this is now part of the preferences, and does not require an extension.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by Aardwolf »

ohstopitu wrote: post #56
Aardwolf wrote: post #24

"Set a preference to have Ctrl+Tab cycle through tabs in recently used order " Finally something that is an actually improved UI feature! Not some "removed status bar and instead hover its info over text you want to read sometimes" or "moved refresh button to different place than before just to annoy you" or similar thing :)

I have this feature in sublime text & Atom and absolutely hate it. I feel like ctrl + tab has to move to next tab & ctrl + shift + tab should move to previous tab (cycle if it reaches the end). I feel like that's more predictable behaviour.

Seems to be a subjective preference indeed then :)

Usually when programming, the most relevant are the last source files I viewed, e.g. a source file and its header file. I love ctrl+tab switching between most recent files this way.

Same in a webbrowser with related articles. Don't see a use of a next/prev in the list tab shortcut myself, it's not like tabs are ever in some particular order for me :)

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by criddell »

cpeterso wrote: post #69
criddell wrote: post #53

I wanted to try reader mode, so I went to a random Atlantic article ( https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/11/better-of... ) and hit ctrl-alt-r. The graph related to the story was dropped. Would that be a bug, or is that how reader mode is supposed to work? I don't have the equivalent Evernote plug-in anymore (I'm trying to get away from Evernote), so I have nothing to compare it to.

You can report a bug in Firefox Reader Mode here. Identifying the "important" content on a page is a hard problem. :) FWIW, Safari's Reader Mode doesn't include the article's graphs or pictures either. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Toolkit&c...

I just wasn't sure if the image being removed is by design.

I found another article where it leaves the author photo but removes the main article photo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/david-camerons-wizar...) so I believe it is a bug.

BTW, I think this bug covers the issue (it's where I got the WP link from):

https://github.com/mozilla/readability/issues/219

Edit: Actually, this is a better bug report:

https://github.com/mozilla/readability/issues/299

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by kbenson »

dbl9 wrote: post #59
kbenson wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On windows, Firefox is the main supplier of binaries. I would hazard that on most Linux/BSD systems, the distribution is the main supplier of binaries. The distributions can easily build it as GTK2 if they want, or provide a GTK2 variant (and as pointed out above, some distributions seem to, or at least make it easy to build it yourself). If you are on Linux and your distribution provides Firefox, this is a complaint…

In the past the GTK3 code path was tested only by Red Hat as the primary developer of all things GTK and GNOME. At that time, there was only a GTK2 build from Mozilla, and now instead of doing the same as Windows 32-bit/64-bit we're presented with just GTK3 support with the promise to obsolete the GTK2 code, while seemingly not considering the regressions of GTK3. Why do we use Mozilla binaries of Firefox on linux di…

> While it is easy to build with cairo-gtk2 as the backend, that code path, as I wrote in a sibling comment, reliably crashes for me anytime I try to do File-Open.

That points towards GTK2 support possibly not being functional, which could be a good reason why they don't provide a build for it, even if they wanted to.

It sounds like the real problem here is that Mozilla is changing stuff that some people don't want changed. I don't think the solution is to ask Mozilla to produce a GTK2 build, but to ask them to fix anything they've broken. If they've decided to move towards GTK3, then that's their choice, and presumably they have reasons for that choice. I don't think it's out of line for them to expect to support a single working build for an architecture/OS combo. That said, they can and should be notified and pressured to fix any regressions. Additionally, if the change is something people don't want, Mozilla should be notified of that (although I suspect there are technical reasons for the change that most people are ignoring).

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by snorrah »

tdkl wrote: post #66
abusque wrote: post #57

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I don't know about Firefox or Atom, but in Chromium you can achieve that via Ctrl-PgUp and Ctrl-PgDn.

Which is a pretty dumb shortcut to use one handed and compared to alt+tab.

Probably pretty nice for left handed mouse / trackpad users though.

Re: Firefox 50.0

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Post by jhoechtl »

dbl9 wrote: post #22
JoshTriplett wrote: post #9

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> Now if only i was not stuck on ESR because GTK3... What's the issue with GTK3?

GTK3 itself has various regressions and is slower than GTK2 despite the architectural refactoring lending itself to a snappier experience. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=771708 Firefox GTK3 has regressions too, for instance the bookmark manager not remembering where you were last which works with Firefox ESR (GTK2). https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1267863 Also GTK3's file dialog is subjective…

Serious comment:why bother with gtk anyhow and move to Qt?
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