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Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by colemickens »

agentgt wrote: post #76
colemickens wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, you can create a blank, empty VM in less than five minutes... but the point of creating a Docker image is that it has everything pre-installed, ready-to-go.... you're not even remotely comparing apples-to-apples. Large images aren't an issue anyway, since the base layers will just be cached...

I said I'm comparing with what I know and experienced (and this is for a JVM shop). I'm sure we could have gotten Docker to probably to be faster especially given your passionate comments (and it appears after googling there have been improvements in docker build time). But I just ran gcloud to create a VM with Java and copied a Jar in under a minute. I just can't figure out a way to get docker to that speed. Are you…

docker build time for adding a jar to an image that has been built before and has been cached is less than 10 seconds.

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by wstrange »

madmax96 wrote: post #53
agentgt wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I admit I'm a little behind on Docker but I thought google provided that with Kubernetes [1]? I work with JVM and servlerless is just not worth it for the JVM (not yet but maybe someday with better AOT). Thus I know very little on instant serverless deployment. I'm sure it is useful though. [1]: https://cloud.google.com/container-engine/

Kubernetes lets you do stuff similar to this, but you still have to manage the infrastructure and the platform. It seems like with Hyper, you literally are just deploying an image to be run in a container. You don't have to worry about configuring and managing a Kubernetes or Swarm cluster. Probably not worth it for very large companies, but for startups and hobby projects, this greatly lowers the barrier to entry.

If you use GKE (Google Kubernetes as a service), you really don't need to manage Kubernetes either.

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by jdc0589 »

gnepzhao wrote: post #35

Hey all, founder is here. I'd like to thank you for your votes here. Really appreciate! Also, I just want to share our public roadmap: https://trello.com/b/7fEwaPRd/roadmap . Feel free to comment. It actually helps a lot for us to prioritize. Thanks!

> serverless cron.

damn, thank you. Anywhere I can see implementation details? Are you rolling your own system from the ground up, or using something like dkron (http://dkron.io/) behind the scenes?

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by icefox »

gnepzhao wrote: post #35

Hey all, founder is here. I'd like to thank you for your votes here. Really appreciate! Also, I just want to share our public roadmap: https://trello.com/b/7fEwaPRd/roadmap . Feel free to comment. It actually helps a lot for us to prioritize. Thanks!

Any more details about the Hyper Func?

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by yberreby »

gnawux wrote: post #55
stu2010 wrote: post #5

"All our servers are built on powerful Octo-Core machines" pretty much guarantees they're using some cheaper than E5 Xeons to save money, I'm wondering if it's something in the Xeon-D line. Has anyone specifically characterized what they're using? Could be Xeon D-1540s or similar, or they could also be selling 4-core hyperthreaded E3 Xeons as "8 core".

Does the CPU model matter?

Yes, it does. Not all CPU cores are created equal. Performance depends on microarchitecture, cache size, memory bandwidth and latency, clock speed, hardware acceleration of specific features, and hyper-threading capabilities, to name a few.

Take the Xeon E5-2403[1] and the Xeon E5-2637 v4[2]. Both are quad-core Xeons, but they differ by pretty much everything except core count.

Here's a comparison of their performance: http://cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=1827&cmp%5B%5D....

Granted, this is an artificial benchmarks, but the results speak for themselves. In this case, the Xeon E5-2637 v4 is almost three times faster than its little brother, the Xeon E5-2403.

Quantifying CPU performance by number of cores is disingenuous at best, and dishonest at worst.

[1]: http://ark.intel.com/products/64615/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-...

[2]: http://ark.intel.com/products/92983/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-...

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by hackerboos »

cies wrote: post #69

Funny to see Deis is not mentioned here. It runs on top of Kubernetes and seems to deliver quite a similar experience to Hyper. Compared to Hyper, Deis seems a bit more towards the Heroku style of doing things, which is not a bad thing at all. And the Deis team came up with Helm which is an amazing way to deploy whole sets of containers as if your are installing packages with a package manager.

I haven't used Deis but I have used Dokku and Flynn.

I found both easy to get started with. Flynn works well with DO and AWS although I couldn't get it to work with any third-party hosts (ssh auth issues).

Took me about an hour to setup 3 load balanced nodes and deploy their test go app which writes to Postgres.

There are issues with Flynn though:

- Missing Dokku's rich plugin support (Let's Encrypt is a breeze on Dokku)

- Log shipping

- Docs need work. I had to dive into the issues to figure out how to setup the custom domain names

- The HA is a bit murky. I downed two of my three nodes and the cluster collapsed. Since Flynn runs on one machine I expected it to work

I personally think there is a big gap in the market for a company that can provides a thin layer on top of the various IaaS providers to create the ease of Heroku with lower costs.

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by ch4s3 »

throwawayReply wrote: post #72
ch4s3 wrote: post #27

I wonder is this is better for spinning up low traffic static sites than DO.

Why would you want to containerize low traffic sites? If it's a low traffic site, why not just build a small site and use a cheap shared host?

I was imagining a scenario where a site is pretty low traffic 90% of the time but occasionally has an article hit the front page of HN or a popular reddit sub.

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by module0000 »

gnawux wrote: post #55
stu2010 wrote: post #5

"All our servers are built on powerful Octo-Core machines" pretty much guarantees they're using some cheaper than E5 Xeons to save money, I'm wondering if it's something in the Xeon-D line. Has anyone specifically characterized what they're using? Could be Xeon D-1540s or similar, or they could also be selling 4-core hyperthreaded E3 Xeons as "8 core".

Does the CPU model matter?

Yes! Running applications that can't cope with NUMA means you need to know what model of CPU, and especially know whether your N-cores are on the same socket or not.

Re: Hyper.sh – Effortless Docker Hosting

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Post by gnepzhao »

jdc0589 wrote: post #84
gnepzhao wrote: post #35

Hey all, founder is here. I'd like to thank you for your votes here. Really appreciate! Also, I just want to share our public roadmap: https://trello.com/b/7fEwaPRd/roadmap . Feel free to comment. It actually helps a lot for us to prioritize. Thanks!

> serverless cron. damn, thank you. Anywhere I can see implementation details? Are you rolling your own system from the ground up, or using something like dkron ( http://dkron.io/ ) behind the scenes?

We are going to release it very soon. Stay tuned :)
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