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I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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What are you engineering right now?

My work is a bit meta at the moment. I'm making software that can take part designs and optimize their physical shape for better performance. So the end result is more fuel efficient cars, faster planes, etc.

"My work is a bit meta at the moment."

That doesn't mean anything. So we can infer that you're not doing shit.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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I hear this sentiment a lot, and don't entirely disagree with it... but it oversimplifies our community massively. If you want to work on big, meaningful problems, here are some compelling options. Do you think our government is broken? Join Nava (a new type of government contractor working on helping the VA fix its backlog and helping CMS move our healthcare system toward value-based-care) or 18F (a new agency withi…

Completely agree. While there are a lot of startups that may not be tackling "meaningful" problems, there are plenty that are. On top of the ones you mentioned there are many FinTech companies that are focused on helping middle and lower class Americans.

The Financial Solutions Lab has tons of startups interested in tackling large financial problems. Even works on income smoothing to make hourly and seasonal workers have steady paychecks. Digit helps with automated saving. Tala uses machine learning to create credit scores for people in Kenya, Tanzania, and other developing countries. Nova Credit helps immigrant gain better credit. There are dozens more that are all helping people get access to better/fairer financial products.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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The economic counterargument would be that any solution to a problem that is not a Nash-equilibrium cannot be implemented. Pretending otherwise is popular, expensive, painful, and doomed to failure as consuming all economic resources on the planet (or any finite amount) cannot fix the underlying problem. But a government can grow, grow, grow while pretending to solve the problem, failing, and "correcting" for the pro…

" any solution to a problem that is not a Nash-equilibrium cannot be implemented." This is empirically false. For example, voluntary contributions to a public good are not a Nash equilibrium, but we observe substantial contributions in experiments with real humans. It's also weird to argue this and then argue against govt intervention. If you don't think non-Nash solutions to public goods problems such as global warm…

Just because people try, on occasion, to fight a Nash equilibrium does not mean they can win. Hell, I bet people do that by mistake. Often even.

Only if they win would it actually mean something. Call me when donations (or government policy) end poverty, for instance.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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>Going to Mars is easy, colonizing Mars is a pipe dream. I can't tell you how much I appreciate hearing this position from someone on this site. I've tried to make that argument here and elsewhere, and it's met with an almost religious fury. I really appreciate that I'm not alone in my intense skepticism of this "colonies on Mars: coming soon!" nonsense. I'll believe it when we've solved, or at least even begun to ad…

The oceans are orders of magnitude more hospitable to mankind & human life than is Mars, and yet we have, to my knowledge, absolutely no undersea colonies. The idea that we'll colonise Mars before we colonise the oceans (a full three-quarters of the globe) is, simply, insane .

Supply & demand. There's just more people who want to colonize mars. if you're going to make the argument of living underwater, then you might as well live in the desert where it's probably even easier. Just because something is easier doesn't mean you should do it.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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> And we can all name a lot of things that are broken: healthcare, education, homelessness and poverty, food waste, climate change... Successful people in Silicon Valley are not concerned by these issues. They can afford to pay physicians without relying on public generosity, they can send their kids in private schools if they're not happy with public ones, they're neither homeless nor likely to become so (by hypothe…

Didn't Zuckerberg spend a ton of money trying to fix education? How'd that go?

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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The oceans are orders of magnitude more hospitable to mankind & human life than is Mars, and yet we have, to my knowledge, absolutely no undersea colonies. The idea that we'll colonise Mars before we colonise the oceans (a full three-quarters of the globe) is, simply, insane .

Supply & demand. There's just more people who want to colonize mars. if you're going to make the argument of living underwater, then you might as well live in the desert where it's probably even easier. Just because something is easier doesn't mean you should do it.

> There's just more people who want to colonize mars.

Completing the circle of comments, this is exactly what this SV adage warns against: Don't trust customers promising to buy something once it is built, because they may not.

The "demand" on Mars colonization is essentially unproven.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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I hear this sentiment a lot, and don't entirely disagree with it... but it oversimplifies our community massively. If you want to work on big, meaningful problems, here are some compelling options. Do you think our government is broken? Join Nava (a new type of government contractor working on helping the VA fix its backlog and helping CMS move our healthcare system toward value-based-care) or 18F (a new agency withi…

Clover (building a Medicare Advantage health insurance company from scratch)

I've been at Clover since January. Cannot recommend enough.

If you want to learn why, I'm always open and willing to chat about it.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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It's all about people who've seen how absurdly rich you can get, and want a piece of that. That's all there is to it. The rest is window dressing and empty words to facilitate an IPO, selling the company, or hitting that lucky lottery win in some other way. When it inevitably, eventually implodes, nothing of lasting value will be lost.

> It's all about people who've seen how absurdly rich you can get Yes and no. As is often bandied about, the expected value of a career in startups is lower than in many other fields, and yet people do stay after seeing through the myth. A large part of it, at least that I've observed, is the energy, speed of execution, rapid change, the excitement and adventure of the startup world. You willingly give up expected va…

I can backup these claims via a third party testimony. I had a friend who worked at Microsoft Redmond for many years and grew tired of the operations a big Juggernaut company and how it can be wasteful and less daring and all the other undesirable behaviors that deep pockets can afford not being in a state of survival. He hopped ship over to LinkedIn to experience a more daring startup lifestyle. According to him it's added a great deal more meaning to his work life. I guess he'll see how things steer under Microsoft's sailing.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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An important point that I think is missing is that solving small, "useless" problems is a good way to get enough money to start solving big, "impactful" problems. Elon Musk didn't just start SpaceX out of the blue; he used his profits from Zip2 and PayPal to fund his more grandiose ideas.

I don't disagree. A while back I met a founder of a respectively successful startup who was pulling an Elon and was saying he hopes to cash out so he can follow his true passion and start a space rocket engine company that will provide infrastructure for the beyond-satellite-orbit space journeys.

I think the problem is this guy is the only person I've met who describes his current venture as a stepping stone towards a grander vision. Most people just see the dollar signs right in front of them.

Re: I’m Done Pretending SF Tech Is Visionary

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This may be a silly question, but why do we think that SV startup mentality must solve every problem? Like the article states, there are lots of "big" problems, like homelessness, healthcare, and inequality. These are usually the realms of government and non-profits. While some of these are startups or institutions with novel ideas / methods, I'm not sure that entrepreneurship solves everything. I'm just not sure you…

Some of that is the rethoric of startups, which usually inflates the importance of their product. Some people believe it and believe SV can solve anything.

Exactly, the same rhetoric follows university programs I came to find out too. A little shocking to discover the reality of all this hyperbolic language one can run into in marketing material. But in the end it's all perfectly well explainable, they're creating the public appearance they want to craft and present to the outside world. Can't blame them for stretching stuff.
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