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It's not like China didn't do that in its past either, probably as recently as qianlong. But they don't go around calling China a nation of profound evil at the time.
Right, the historical anomaly of Japan and Nazi Germany was they tried to kill everybody and take all of their land well after that kind of thing had passed out of style.
Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
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Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
#82As opposed to Europe's solution, where they allow unrestricted immigration from volatile areas?
"Allow" Your alternative is to shoot them at the border, or film them while they drown at sea... and even that wouldn't work as well as you might hope. Just wait and see what the next few decades hold, it's going to make this recent wave of migration seem absolutely delightful by comparison. We've made the implicit choice to live our lives in such a way that the AGW is going to make the places like Northern Africa ut…
To the degree Africa is unlivable it's because of Africans and their high birthrate (but most of it is not unlivable at all, it's just that Europe is richer and you get free everything).
Either the EU closes its borders or immigration will be the end of Europe. Don't pretend you don't understand this.
Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Allow" Your alternative is to shoot them at the border, or film them while they drown at sea... and even that wouldn't work as well as you might hope. Just wait and see what the next few decades hold, it's going to make this recent wave of migration seem absolutely delightful by comparison. We've made the implicit choice to live our lives in such a way that the AGW is going to make the places like Northern Africa ut…
The reason they are even at the border is that they are enticed by welfare in countries like Germany and Sweden. There are relatively rich nations with nobody at the border, like Saudi Arabia. To the degree Africa is unlivable it's because of Africans and their high birthrate (but most of it is not unlivable at all, it's just that Europe is richer and you get free everything). Either the EU closes its borders or immi…
I can understand the desire to feel like you have something in your control though, when the reality is so very different.
Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
#84IMO a decent solution to the low-birth-rate problem is not to try to hook up all the singles together, but rather encourage existing couples to have more children. Make it socially acceptable and even desirable to have more children. Give incentives to working men who have more children.
This seems wrong to me. This seems to go against the promotion of diversity, for the species and in thought. If society is moving toward the idea that children aren't a 'benefit,' then having people who are 'willing' to have children have more just postpones the issue, instead of fixing the root cause.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reason they are even at the border is that they are enticed by welfare in countries like Germany and Sweden. There are relatively rich nations with nobody at the border, like Saudi Arabia. To the degree Africa is unlivable it's because of Africans and their high birthrate (but most of it is not unlivable at all, it's just that Europe is richer and you get free everything). Either the EU closes its borders or immi…
It's the end of Europe, brace yourselves. It's not going to help that many there share similar (wrong) beliefs about why Northern Africa is going to hell, so you'll waste time on draconian measures that won't help in the slightest. I can understand the desire to feel like you have something in your control though, when the reality is so very different.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the end of Europe, brace yourselves. It's not going to help that many there share similar (wrong) beliefs about why Northern Africa is going to hell, so you'll waste time on draconian measures that won't help in the slightest. I can understand the desire to feel like you have something in your control though, when the reality is so very different.
Controlling the border is no problem at all. It's only a matter of will - just look at Israel.
This just in... Europe is quite a bit larger than Israel, and composed of different sovereign nations.
Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
#87There are a number of interplaying and compounding factors that are responsible for creating this situation. I will list a few in no particular order.
- The hours are absolutely insane. My partner rarely leaves her office before 10pm, and by the time she does, she is completely exhausted and unable to do anything other than hit the sack. This type of situation is extremely prevalent and generally affects both men and women. It is no wonder that young people have no time to socialize, go out and meet potential partners when they spend 90% of their waking hours working or otherwise subordinating to this insane work cult.
- Japan is a country of predefined roles and expectations, and at different ages people are fully expected to meet certain benchmarks and seamlessly transition into new roles. One such role is that of a provider, and men are expected to be able to become full-time breadwinners by the time they hit 30. With the economy being what it is and the traditional Japanese notion of lifetime employment being a thing of the past, a lot of men aren't able to live up to these expectations and simply drop out of the dating pool. Some of it is involuntary, since Japanese women tend to maintain very high expectations as to what a man needs to be able to provide.
- Sex is generally highly available and there are all kinds of parlors, services, salons, middlemen and clubs catering to both men and women. It's cheap, legal and safe, thereby creating a disincentive for people to attempt and engage in the old fashioned mating process. On top of that - and this is going to sound completely nuts to those who aren't familiar with the country - there are full-time gigolos, both foreign and domestic, whose only life goal seems to be getting as many notches as possible. They approach women on the street, in bookstores, train stations, malls, you name it. I know a few of these characters and many of them have notches in the 3 figure range and juggle up to 7 women at a time. It's all they ever do, and I suspect that they tie up a huge number of women at any given point in time. I can't say I've noticed the same phenomenon in any other country.
- The local culture isn't exactly touchy-feely and even when people date, it's something they do because it's what young people are supposed and expected to do, not because they like their partner or dating in particular. Just a curiosity I've noticed with many couples.
Obviously, the situation is very complex and cannot be explained with a simple narrative, but I hope this helps clarify things a little.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, unprovoked? That belies a lack of historical perspective. Japan killed tens of millions of Chinese and intended to occupy the entire western Pacific, killing or enslaving all the people who lived there. The entire nation, all of its labor and industry, was bent toward this goal. It was a nation of profound evil.
>It was a nation of profound evil. That's one perspective. Another is that Japan was merely doing what it felt was necessary to protect itself from interference by aggressive Western Imperial powers, and weren't necessarily more "evil" than any other empire at the time. A third is that the country that dropped two atomic bombs on civilian cities and firebombed Tokyo to the ground was no less evil than the empire they…
One can only assume that this individual believes Germany's concentration camps and what occurred therein were just "cultural relativism" and "propaganda" too and that Germany was "doing what it felt was necessary to protect itself".
Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
#89As opposed to Europe's solution, where they allow unrestricted immigration from volatile areas?
Re: Japan has a worrying number of virgins, government finds
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't want any random fix of their demographics where they just bring in young people of whatever nationality. They want a Japanese fix to their demographics. If they viewed people as just interchangeable culturally, why even care about their falling demographics? Other Asian and Africans countries make up for them.
> If they viewed people as just interchangeable culturally, why even care about their falling demographics? Other Asian and Africans countries make up for them. Because they need young, employed people locally to provide services to all the retirees.