Louisiana Judges Issue Harsher Sentences When the LSU Football Team Loses

Post by zo1 » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 7:29 PM UTC

bluehazed wrote: post #74

zo1 wrote: post #64

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Repair is only applicable when there is victim. The other point is that certain acts can not be meaningfully repaired/repaid within our current societal context. I.e. How do you measure the repayment or actions-required to repair a life that is taken by someone? I would argue indentured servitude is a valid way to go, but it makes people uncomfortable because they see it as slavery. Yet, keeping someone locked up in…

> I would argue indentured servitude is a valid way to go, but it makes people uncomfortable because they see it as slavery. It's just slavery with extra steps.

Post by nxzero » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 8:05 PM UTC

acbabis wrote: post #63

nxzero wrote: post #36

Once had the very surreal experience while in court waiting to litigate a case to object to a higher court's jurisdiction over a case; my motion was granted, and the case was sent to the lower court. While waiting for the above motion to be heard for over an hour, the person directly behind me was calling how the judge would respond to various matters that required the judge's opinion. Having nothing to do, since mob…

I was under the impression that you only have multiple courts review a case when the case is appealed. Wouldn't cases that are appealed be biased in favor of unpredictability by the fact that people believed they could be reversed?

Post by dragonwriter » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 8:15 PM UTC

blackbagboys wrote: post #84

jotux wrote: post #78

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I've never understood this as an adult. It's fine to make someone else suffer because they did it to you? What reasonable person feels better because they see someone else suffer? What kind of logic is that?

Have you ever been seriously injured by a criminal or have had a loved one seriously injured by a criminal? Vengeance is a perfectly natural and reasonable expectation of someone in such a situation and an essential element of justice. If the state doesn't provide it, people will take it into their own hands.

Post by 888uuii » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 8:31 PM UTC

blackbagboys wrote: post #72

lukeschlather wrote: post #46

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The solution is restorative justice, where the focus is on repairing the harm rather than punishment. For example, sending a drug addict to prison for 10 years doesn't do anything to alleviate the harm of the crime, and in fact is harmful in and of itself, just in a different way. The law needs to maintain a much closer balance between hurting people and helping people. While hurting criminals does have a deterrent f…

What if someone maims me, or murders a close relative, and I feel the only way to repair the harm I've suffered is to punish the offender? "Hurting criminals" isn't just done to deter future crimes, it's done to satisfy the needs of the victims.

Post by acbabis » Fri, Sep 09, 2016, 10:26 PM UTC

nxzero wrote: post #83

acbabis wrote: post #63

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I was under the impression that you only have multiple courts review a case when the case is appealed. Wouldn't cases that are appealed be biased in favor of unpredictability by the fact that people believed they could be reversed?

Happy to address the question, but it's not clear to me exactly what the question is. In the example I provided the lower court and court above it shared jurisdiction over the case by law. Generally, upper courts for case load reasons will not hear a case that's not an appeal. In this case, the higher court considered hearing the case based on the arguments of the other party, but I won based on my arguments that as…