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Re: iPhone 7

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Post by Esau »

slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

To me, the biggest problem with this move is that you can't charge the device and listen to music with corded headphones at the same time. Unless there is some option I am unaware of.

In any case, I just decided to replace my iPhone 5 with an iPhone 6s, which I should be able to find on sale.

Re: iPhone 7

#82

Post by sosborn »

berberous wrote: post #34
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I think they are really shooting themselves in the foot if they don't open up and license the W1 chip to any manufacturer that wants it. If the only way forward is to buy poor quality AirPods (I'm assuming that they audio quality, like with the EarPods, is 'okay', but not great considering the price) or even more overpriced Beats, then this is a really user hostile move. Yes, you could use Bluetooth, but I'm guessing…

> If the only way forward is to buy poor quality AirPods

Bluetooth is still an option

Re: iPhone 7

#83

Post by chris_7 »

usaphp wrote: post #27
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they might replace the headphone jack with a USB-C connector. Then they could do the same thing on the MacBook and it'd have two USB-C ports. But instead they chose Lightning, so now we have iPhone headphones and Android headphones. Why did it have to be this way?

We have bluetooth headphones, which work on iPhones, Androids and computers.

Well, they work... sometimes.

Re: iPhone 7

#85

Post by k-mcgrady »

ceejayoz wrote: post #32
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

> the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time Was that downward slope clear at the time Apple made the changes, though? I remember "no Flash on iPhone" being a major complaint of many pundits.

Dropping the DVD drive was also a pretty big thing at the time as there wasn't even a 'similar' alternative (another type of removable media the industry had switched to. In the past it seems when they drop technology it real does make the changeover period quicker. This time I'm not so sure it will but at the end of the day I don't think it matters. Most people use the headphones that come with their iPhone and they will continue to. Not to mention Beats has 60-80% of the headphone market share depending on who you believe so with Beats + EarPods + AirPods most people are covered.

Re: iPhone 7

#86

Post by adt2bt »

enjo wrote: post #48
msoad wrote: post #22

I buy a new iPhone every year. I think phone utilization is so high that around $1 a day is nothing for it. Compare it with cars clothes and other things

Where are you getting a $365 iPhone from?

$32/month for the unlocked iPhone every year program from Apple is $384/year, close to $1/day.

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by [deleted] »

enjo wrote: post #48
msoad wrote: post #22

I buy a new iPhone every year. I think phone utilization is so high that around $1 a day is nothing for it. Compare it with cars clothes and other things

Where are you getting a $365 iPhone from?

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Re: iPhone 7

#88

Post by BurningFrog »

strictnein wrote: post #37
apendleton wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB is a good counterexample, though. They started pushing USB for all peripherals before anybody else, and before there was a good market for peripherals that supported it. The market emerged soon thereafter, though, and other companies were ditching their parallel ports, etc., within a year or two.

USB isn't a good counter example, unless they were switching to USB-C. But they're not, they're sticking with their proprietary port.

OP is talking about the controversial original iMac launch in 1998:

http://www.macworld.com/article/1133334/original_imac.html

"Considering all these amenities, the most shocking part of the iMac isn’t what it offers, but what it lacks. The iMac has no floppy drive, which might be forgivable if there were a Zip drive or other removable-media option, but there isn’t.

And most dramatically, this new consumer offering has no SCSI port, no standard serial ports, and no ADB ports. Apple has opted to replace these familiar connections with USB, a high-speed serial architecture that has suffered from slow adoption on the Wintel platform despite its technical advantages (see the sidebar “USB: Ready for Prime Time?”). Currently, no USB devices exist for the Mac."

Re: iPhone 7

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Post by FigBug »

acomjean wrote: post #42
slg wrote: post #5

I still can't get over the headphone jack. Apple does have a good record of abandoning technologies at the right time (floppies, CDs, Flash, etc) but the biggest difference is that those technologies were all on the downward slope of their popularity when Apple made the move and all had solid replacements available at the time. The headphone jack is just as popular today as it has ever been and it is still more conve…

I can't get over the headphone jack either. Another dongle to loose. Tons of headphones obsoleted. Can't charge while listening. Laggy audio. more batteries in the world. They're ok with a bulge for the camera but not headphones? I work in a lab and a phone with headphones is standard equipment on the commute and work (for at least part of the day). I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it. If onl…

> I would seriously move off iOS if I was making music with it.

Can you explain this?

Re: iPhone 7

#90

Post by mulletbum »

ihuman wrote: post #31
BurningFrog wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They seem incredibly easy to lose.

Especially if it falls out of your ear. I've always had trouble getting the EarPods to stay in my ear while running. I had to loop the wire above and around my ear; I can't do that with the AirPods.

They are not for running. That was addressed as Beats plans to have the fitness models.
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