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Re: SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falcon 9 Rocket

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Starting from a circular Mars orbit rather than Hoffman transfer would put their initial entry speed closer to 7000mph. > Parachute can bleed off 80+% of that speed for little additional weight unlike wings which would need to survive supersonic retry heating making parachutes a no brainier. Sure, Parachutes make a lot of sense for a one way trip. But Parachutes are a consumable, one which would be really hard to man…

If you are sending stuff back up then parachutes are reusable, but heat shields are not. There might be an argument if you where landing thousands of rockets a day and had giant city's on mars. But, by that point you can just make more.

Depends on the heat shield. The Space Shuttle's heat shield was designed for reuse (though in practice the tiles were so fragile that they needed extensive checks and occasional replacement before each reentry).

I notice that Spacex have designed their ablative heat shield to which can withstand hundreds of reentries to Earth without any replacement or refurbishment. Still technically a consumable, but I really doubt anyone is happy with re-packing and re-using the same reentry parachutes hundreds of times.

And that's reentries to Earth, where the entry velocity is 17,000mph and the atmosphere is 100 times thicker. Such a heatsheild can probably withstand thousands of Mars reentries at just 7000mph before replacement.

Re: SES-10 Launching to Orbit on SpaceX's Flight-Proven Falcon 9 Rocket

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"Either way it's an amazing achievement." What the what. We've gone from "holy ish, sci-fi reusable rockets and we's living la vita future!" to qualified approval..? No. No. This is not about satellites. This is about the primary cost component for transporting a colony to Mars. And it's already destroying the competition pricewise, and this will widen that gap enormously. Did the Spanish Govt say, well, that's nice…

Well said. This is one of those things that will get a specific mention in the history books for a long, long time.

Previous generations remember where they were for the Moon landing, just as I'll always remember where I was for the first successful Falcon 9 first stage return.
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