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From Chrome Apps to the Web

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Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Four months notice to be told there's no point releasing a Chrome packaged app you might have been working on (which may not work as an extension) isn't very much notice.

Four months is plenty of time to repackage a chrome app into electron or something.

The lure of Chrome apps and extensions is they're easy and safe for users to install which is not true of alternatives.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#82
With Chrome OS now supporting Android apps, this obviously means Chrome Apps will get dropped there as well even if they deny it now. A real shame since since those had a chance to become an excellent modern platform for internet-first desktop-grade apps. As all things Google, they had a great solid technical start, but at some point the clueless managers had to pull the plug.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#83
For K-12 schools, losing Internet access is a frequent occurrence and when they do have access it's often slowed down by the other 1000+ students using it. Chrome Apps totally on the web also mean times when there will be no app at all.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#84
As a developer, I was pretty concerned on what to chose between Chrome Apps and packaged apps with Electron. Chrome apps didn't make sense.

I chose Electron for obvious reasons, but still wish there was a some simpler way to package and distribute Electron apps. And a way to restrict app-permissions on Electron desktop apps - similar to what we do on mobile .

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#85

I think next year's Android tablets will be more like the Play Store with Chrome OS under the hood, the apps they are obsoleting today will be a universally inferior experience on tablets because they were only ever supported on desktops. I think Google are betting on the Play Store for Windows and macOS breaking the Windows/Mac desktop paradigm too ... between Chrome the browser and Android apps Google occupies a lo…

After thinking some more... Maybe Play Store for Windows and Play Store for OS X will launch real soon... as Play Store for Chrome. In Chrome OS they're currently adding the Play Store to select hardware including x86 laptops using ... "container" technology. In Chrome OS these apps will start to stop being available in about a year. In Chrome on Windows and Mac they are losing access to these apps, the vast vast vas…

Yes. The browser is already like second OS. So if Google provides the Android API through Chrome. And if Chrome comes with PlayStore, then a lot of people will be able to run Android apps on Windows 7+, macOS and Linux. And as a next step, people will ask themself why not just buy a notebook with Android and run 1-2 legacy apps via Wine or whatever. And the new announced (on Github) Fuchsia OS that may replace some rusty parts may happen like Win98 to WinNT. And MS can do little to prevent it, their Phones and tablets have a 1% global market share, their store is a joke, their UWP platform failed (Win10 exclusive games like Quantum Break already backported to Win7 and Steam), and they still do their best to scare of their long time users with their aggressive style, that was unheard of during Balmer era. So Google has a very good chance to win the desktop market share big time. Just don't forget about enterprise customers!

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#86
post #23

This is going to be really annoying since hardware access from HTML5 is still very rough and not even standardized. Stuff like talking to a serial port isn't even on the radar (so good luck programming a board like BBC micro:bit, Arduino, etc. without a native app), and efforts like WebUSB are still extremely early and not even a full standard. I feel like the product managers making this decision are completely obli…

To be fair, did many people actually place a significant 'bet' on Chrome Web Apps? Even from the beginning that wouldnt sound like a very wise bet.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

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post #23

This is going to be really annoying since hardware access from HTML5 is still very rough and not even standardized. Stuff like talking to a serial port isn't even on the radar (so good luck programming a board like BBC micro:bit, Arduino, etc. without a native app), and efforts like WebUSB are still extremely early and not even a full standard. I feel like the product managers making this decision are completely obli…

The article mentions using Electron or NW.js if you want to continue building apps on web technologies that need deeper platform access. Is there a reason that those are worse options than Chrome apps?

Only Chrome apps work on Chrome OS and developing a Chrome app is way easier: Chrome takes care of the back-end and Google offers an app store.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Asking a end user if foo.com should be allowed to open a TCP connexion to host:port makes no sense. 99.999% of users can't make an informed decision, and they just want the damn to work so they choose "allow". Never ask users questions that they can't reasonably answer, ie don't do what android did for a long time (looks like this has been improving since N). Maybe the case of TCP/UDP could be improved by showing a h…

You can't reasonably limit access to a specific host anyway, because DNS allows you to point a hostname to any IP; once you have permission to access a hostname that you control DNS for, you can connect to any arbitrary IP address, including LAN addresses. (You could slightly mitigate that by blocking RFC1918 private addresses and localhost, but then you couldn't build clients to talk to such servers.) As another alt…

Yes, but the "solution" is that you can't convince the browser to talk anything but HTTP. So unless the device is HTTP it will probably ignore your "malformed" request.

It is awful that we can't rely on devices to do proper authentication but that is the state of security today.

Re: From Chrome Apps to the Web

#89

So does this mean Chrome Remote Desktop is going to be a Chrome OS exclusive by early 2017?

There's also the official SSH client that is a NaCl version of OpenSSH, I've been toying with it since it seems kind of superior to PuTTY on Windows.

You should try hyperterm, it's based on the chrome ssh NaCl version shell with support for plugins on top https://hyperterm.org/
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