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China’s Cheating Husbands Fuel an Industry of ‘Mistress Dispellers’

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Hard to believe this is something more than 'wannabe business PR' plus movie PR. China female/male ratio is heavily unbalanced. There is a LOT men on market for women to choose. Also almost no foreign woman marry chinese man, on the contrary to the chinese women marrying a lot of foreigners. 1+2 means china is a market where men are at bad position and women has plenty of fish to choose from. Opposite situation which…

You are in fact very right, but there is one critical issue here. If we are talking about marriage. Culturally there is a "lifespan" of value to both genders. A Man's valuable lifespan can be well over 20 years, from age 20 all the way to age 40.While a woman's valuable lifespan maybe only less than 10 years, from 20 to 30. This is because of the "stake" people are seeking when looking for a marriage between genders.…

A well-educated, well-paid woman doesn't need to marry a wealthy man.

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But how many of these men are actually desirable by the women? The services in the article cost upwards of $10k which means the woman in this case might be married to a rich high status man, which is arguably difficult to come by. If you are a women age 28 married to a high status man for say six years, you probably want to keep that man instead of trying to find another one.

How is that woman entitled to the status attached the man she married?

because he chose to marry her, which means they unite their status.

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The divorce rate in the USA is nowhere near that high. It peaked at around 60% in the 80s and has fallen to below 50% since then. There is a reason many woman want the apartment in their name as a co owner before they get married: otherwise they'll have no recourse on divorce. Even if they helped pay for it, they need their name there or they have no rights. This is how it is in China, relatively simple. As for paren…

> The divorce rate in the USA is nowhere near that high. It peaked at around 60% in the 80s and has fallen to below 50% since then. I should have stated that better. Historically, in America, from the late 19th Century until the present, women have filed the majority of divorces; approximately two thirds, regardless of prevalent economic circumstances.

Well, that makes more sense. I honestly never thought about who filed, even in my parents' divorce.

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The divorce rate in the USA is nowhere near that high. It peaked at around 60% in the 80s and has fallen to below 50% since then. There is a reason many woman want the apartment in their name as a co owner before they get married: otherwise they'll have no recourse on divorce. Even if they helped pay for it, they need their name there or they have no rights. This is how it is in China, relatively simple. As for paren…

> The divorce rate in the USA is nowhere near that high. It peaked at around 60% in the 80s and has fallen to below 50% since then. I should have stated that better. Historically, in America, from the late 19th Century until the present, women have filed the majority of divorces; approximately two thirds, regardless of prevalent economic circumstances.

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#85
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Hard to believe this is something more than 'wannabe business PR' plus movie PR. China female/male ratio is heavily unbalanced. There is a LOT men on market for women to choose. Also almost no foreign woman marry chinese man, on the contrary to the chinese women marrying a lot of foreigners. 1+2 means china is a market where men are at bad position and women has plenty of fish to choose from. Opposite situation which…

>* Hard to believe this is something more than 'wannabe business PR' plus movie PR.*

By the way what is that movie's actual name? I haven't been able to find it on imdb, rotten tomatoes, etc.

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> If rights are equal, then women are incentivised to divorce to "cash in" the value of their husband. This only applies if earning potential between women and men is wildly disparate. When women can and do earn as much as men, the "cashing in" factor largely goes away.

I think this is a problem if the actual net worth is significantly different between partners, not earning potential.

Sure, but the same logic applies. If your main concern is someone taking your money in a divorce, marry someone who has similar net worth.

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#87
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Yeah. I'm not sure what decade these people are living in. If you're worried about marriage because you think your wife is going to divorce you and take half your money, you could choose a spouse with her own source of good income.

That limits your choices quite a bit. For example there are a large number of attractive women with terrible incomes and/or no savings, for which "scoring a successful man" may be a "valid" mating strategy

If you select someone as your mate who is mostly interested in you for your money, then you should expect that they will take a big chunk of your money if you divorce. I don't mean this in a "you deserve it" kind of way, but in a "this is the relationship you agreed to" way.

If your mate is with you for your money and you are with them for their youth and looks, then assuming you stay with them long enough that after a divorce much of their youth and good looks are gone, why shouldn't they get some of your money? You got their most valuable assets.

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A man is not fungible, but 600,000,000 men are.

Either a good is fungible or it isn't (well, a good has an elasticity, it's not binary of course), it doesn't depend on the supply. Consumer choices are a function of elasticity and location on the supply/demand curve (and many more things ofc, but that's not relevant for this point). In other words, supply nor demand are a component of fungibility.

Books, Music, Movies, TV, etc are all treated as fungible commodities due to the wide range of options. In much the same way that Meat and Coal have a wide range of quality and unique traits, but again the market has no problem dealing in bulk purchases.

Granted, this often breaks down such as with the last mortgage crash but no abstraction is actually true.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how many of these men are actually desirable by the women? The services in the article cost upwards of $10k which means the woman in this case might be married to a rich high status man, which is arguably difficult to come by. If you are a women age 28 married to a high status man for say six years, you probably want to keep that man instead of trying to find another one.

How is that woman entitled to the status attached the man she married?

I don't understand your objection.

The woman does not get a copy of the man's status.

She gets high status by marrying a high status man.

The wife of Donald Trump does not have to achieve anything to gain status. She gains status simply by being Trump's wife.

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post #88
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Either a good is fungible or it isn't (well, a good has an elasticity, it's not binary of course), it doesn't depend on the supply. Consumer choices are a function of elasticity and location on the supply/demand curve (and many more things ofc, but that's not relevant for this point). In other words, supply nor demand are a component of fungibility.

Books, Music, Movies, TV, etc are all treated as fungible commodities due to the wide range of options. In much the same way that Meat and Coal have a wide range of quality and unique traits, but again the market has no problem dealing in bulk purchases. Granted, this often breaks down such as with the last mortgage crash but no abstraction is actually true.

What? No, nobody treats movies or music as fungible. Hence the extreme importance of A&R's, for example.

And when you buy beef in bulk, that doesn't mean that they'll send you whatever meat they have on hand, nor is that what 'fungible' even means.

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