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Re: Atlassian Acquires StatusPage

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Having used many different bug tracking, help desk, and ticketing softwares… Atlassian does a dam good job. Totally customizable screens, fields, and workflows with a modern UI. A decent webservice API I’ve integrated a few external tools into without much difficulty. I’ve also written a few gadgets and plugins and received a decent amount of attention through their plugin marketplace. Maybe the admin that setup your…

> Maybe the admin that setup your install or business workflow did a bad job? I think this is key. There's so much customization allowed that its easy to get wrong. Your experiences can vary drastically between a well configured instance and a poorly configured one.

I'll also add it's not always obviously wrong when it's setup.

For example, of course only QA people can use "Testing passed" transition. Of course there should be x, y, z fields filled out to be able to create the ticket. Well we're at it, let's make sure only the product manager can close a ticket with 'wontfix', and only the release manager can change a fixversion.

This is a really common problem with any workflow tool, where well-intentioned control points get in the way of actually Getting Things Done, both from the perspective of not thinking through all the complex scenarios (what? I have to fill out 5 fields before I can close this as a duplicate??) and from not trusting your employees (don't worry, a jr. dev is not going to re-assign a fix version even though they can -- or at least, they won't do it twice).

Re: Atlassian Acquires StatusPage

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post #70
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having used many different bug tracking, help desk, and ticketing softwares… Atlassian does a dam good job. Totally customizable screens, fields, and workflows with a modern UI. A decent webservice API I’ve integrated a few external tools into without much difficulty. I’ve also written a few gadgets and plugins and received a decent amount of attention through their plugin marketplace. Maybe the admin that setup your…

> Maybe the admin that setup your install or business workflow did a bad job? I think this is key. There's so much customization allowed that its easy to get wrong. Your experiences can vary drastically between a well configured instance and a poorly configured one.

I think another thing people get wrong is before even using it they assume they've got to dive into a ton of custom workflows.

I've had some fairly large teams able to use JIRA without a single workflow customization (especially with Agile). We've added custom fields and such along the way for better reporting and such but there is definitely some mileage you can get out of the box with it.

Re: Atlassian Acquires StatusPage

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I remember when I was doing a talk in Melbourne, another developer told me what he didn't like about Atlassian was that they essentially only had one product (was it Jira? or Confluence? can't remember) and almost everything else in their offering set; they bought from other people and re-engineered to fit into their product line. Having administered, Jira, Confluence and Bamboo servers (all with slightly different i…

Their biggest product is JIRA followed by Confluence. Let's look at acquisitions vs internal developments: - 2003: JIRA - In-house - ~2004: Confluence - In-house - ~2007: Fisheye, Crucible (code analysis) - Acquisition - ~2008: Bamboo (builds) - Acquisition - 2010: Bitbucket - Acquisition - 2011: SourceTree - Acquisition - ~2012: Bonfire (JIRA Capture - screencast bugcatcher) - In-house - ~2013: HipChat - Acquisition…

Nice overview! Don't forget Bitbucket Pipelines (in-house), which is intended to replace Bamboo Cloud:

http://blogs.atlassian.com/2016/05/introducing-bitbucket-pip...

(Atlassian employee here)

Re: Atlassian Acquires StatusPage

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This acquisition doesn't fill me with confidence for the future. StatusPage was a clean, simple, and intuitive service. Atlasssian's software is the opposite of clean, simple, and intuitive.

> In their official announcement today, the StatusPage co-founders also note that when the team explored the acquisition, “we were aligned on three important things: our complementary cultures, our desire to offer StatusPage as a standalone product, and our shared vision of the future of software.” Standalone product. I think it will be safe.

Bitbucket has remained a standalone product, but I don't think many of its original mercurial userbase feel like it's been "safe".

When Atlassian bought bitbucket it was the place to host mercurial repositories. Now it's a git hosting service that hasn't gotten around to turning off mercurial support yet.

Re: Atlassian Acquires StatusPage

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I remember when I was doing a talk in Melbourne, another developer told me what he didn't like about Atlassian was that they essentially only had one product (was it Jira? or Confluence? can't remember) and almost everything else in their offering set; they bought from other people and re-engineered to fit into their product line. Having administered, Jira, Confluence and Bamboo servers (all with slightly different i…

Their biggest product is JIRA followed by Confluence. Let's look at acquisitions vs internal developments: - 2003: JIRA - In-house - ~2004: Confluence - In-house - ~2007: Fisheye, Crucible (code analysis) - Acquisition - ~2008: Bamboo (builds) - Acquisition - 2010: Bitbucket - Acquisition - 2011: SourceTree - Acquisition - ~2012: Bonfire (JIRA Capture - screencast bugcatcher) - In-house - ~2013: HipChat - Acquisition…

> ~2008: Bamboo (builds) - Acquisition

Who did they buy Bamboo from?

The first Atlassian releases of Bamboo were so bad we went back to using CruiseControl. I'm astonished that they actually paid money to acquire that.

Re: Atlassian Acquires StatusPage

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"Adding a service like StatusPage, which launched three years ago, seems like a natural fit for Atlassian." Why is this a natural fit for Atlassian? Not being snarky, I just don't see how this is any more a natural fit for Atlassian than lots of other companies that provide picks-and-shovels to the software builders of the world.

Because Atlassian's core skills these days seem to be oriented towards getting enterprises to buy their software.

Their products are decent enough, but certainly not exceptional. Their pace of development has slowed to a crawl. The word on the street is that they're pouring massive investment into HipChat, yet it's been easily outdone by Slack.

Yet, they're doing well, because they manage to package it all up at just the right price point, with just the right set of services to get people to buy it.

Something like StatusPage fits them well because it's an existing, working, solution that they can monetize.

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