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Pinboard Turns Seven

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Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by deftnerd »

buro9 wrote: post #24
polpo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is certainly willing to divulge the details. He's posted his expenses yearly. Here are 2015's: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15RdDg3XyOGzW1T0Wjw9M...

Mine looks much the same, I pay GBP 6,900 per year to run 300 forums serving 200k users per month and over 8m page views per month. Also in my costs are email (transactional via Mailgun, marketing via MailJet), DMARCian, AWS S3 for avatars and attachments, SSL (still paying for a wildcard, perhaps let's encrypt next time round), Google Apps for email to run the business. It's realistic to spend around USD 10k per yea…

If you're looking to lower your S3 costs, there are some S3 compatible services now that are far cheaper.

Found this list: http://www.s3-client.com/s3-storage-providers.html

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Post by amix »

samastur wrote: post #35
amix wrote: post #28

As a long term Pinboard customer I dislike this "I am doing nothing and I am proud of it" mentality and I will unsubscribe. Pinboard has been the same for years and I feel little attachment to the product. I am unsure what to switch to, but Pinterest looks like an interesing and innovative solution.

I feel like I am missing something. You were fine with service and value that it provided until you found out that Maciej is not busy enough running it? Why would you care if you get more value than you pay. Or alternatively, why would you pay for it if it didn't? Are you switching only because of the above reason or is there something missing that you'd like to find elsewhere? I am, too, a long term Pinboard custome…

If you pay for a product on a recurring basis you expect improvements and not only support of the status quo.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by teach »

amix wrote: post #82
samastur wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like I am missing something. You were fine with service and value that it provided until you found out that Maciej is not busy enough running it? Why would you care if you get more value than you pay. Or alternatively, why would you pay for it if it didn't? Are you switching only because of the above reason or is there something missing that you'd like to find elsewhere? I am, too, a long term Pinboard custome…

If you pay for a product on a recurring basis you expect improvements and not only support of the status quo.

I suspect that not many people share your view.

I don't pay for things expecting that they will get continually better. I pay for things so I can keep using them as they are.

Change is just as likely to make something worse as it is to make it better.

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Post by tptacek »

A quick reminder for those of you who read a lot of papers: if you have an archival account, Pinboard will index PDFs. This is way more useful than it sounds: as you bookmark papers, Pinboard gradually transforms into a mini search engine for the research you care about.

Someone asked me yesterday how it was I read so many crypto papers, after citing Bos and Costello in crypto dork Slack. I forgot to tell them my trick: I don't! I just follow citations and bookmark the hell out of things.

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Post by stevekemp »

code_research wrote: post #43

Self hosting alternatives: https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie https://github.com/plainmade/unmark Especially Bookie looks good and would be a preferred candidate to transition to if you are still using the very old 'Sitebar', 'Scuttle' or the interesting 'Semantic Scuttle'.

A simpler alternative, for technical users, might be to store your bookmarks as a plaintext file under revision control.

You can then present them via javascript to allow filtering, searching, and tags.

https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public

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Post by idlewords »

tomaskafka wrote: post #80
toyg wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I exchanged tweets with Maciej about this; the main issue is that extensions are a constant moving target -- which is sadly true, it takes a lot of work to keep an extension working these days, especially on Firefox.

For bookmarking? Srsly? It must be like 2 days per year and browser max :rollseyes (yes, I've built several browser extensions) ...

So that's like a week of my year gone! No thanks.

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Post by drdaeman »

stevekemp wrote: post #85
code_research wrote: post #43

Self hosting alternatives: https://github.com/bookieio/Bookie https://github.com/plainmade/unmark Especially Bookie looks good and would be a preferred candidate to transition to if you are still using the very old 'Sitebar', 'Scuttle' or the interesting 'Semantic Scuttle'.

A simpler alternative, for technical users, might be to store your bookmarks as a plaintext file under revision control. You can then present them via javascript to allow filtering, searching, and tags. https://github.com/skx/bookmarks.public

Well, a note-taking solution (be it a plaintext file or a simple database) can perfectly handle the task of keeping URLs, but I think the point of bookmarking service are social aspects and/or content archival and indexing. Otherwise there's no reason to just not stick to what browsers have built-in for ages.

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Post by joshmn »

idlewords wrote: post #15
Jerry2 wrote: post #10

I switched to Pinboard few months ago when Delicious committed seppuku and made their site completely unusable. First, Delicious just shut down their site for something like a week, then they resurrected some ancient version of their site that looks & behaves like it's from 2007. Then they switched to an old domain (del.icio.us) and broke every bookmarklet and plugin that used their API. (I'm guessing they're plannin…

I talked at length with Tony Aly, who is the new Delicious owner. He is not incompetent and I believe he is making a good-faith effort to get the site back to life. But it's a difficult migration to make. The site was hemmorhaging money on AWS, which made it imperative to try to move it to dedicated hosting. The code base and data store has all kinds of issues stemming from the fact that it's been rewritten so many t…

> so they could perform some kind of SEO asshattery with that domain in the future.

Sounds about right.

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Post by eridius »

stared wrote: post #38

I am a very happy user of Pinboard. And thanks for posting stats! One things which looks worrying is the stagnation of the number of users. By a common social media wisdom, it's a very bad sign... but some time ago I did analyze MathOverflow community (a research-level mathematics Stack Overflow) and they saturated in the first months (sic!) http://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2182/is-mathoverflow-... , yet it is…

Social media also relies on social graphs to provide value. But a bookmarking service like Pinboard, while having social components, derives most of its value simply from the service it provides to the user on its own without any social connections. Someone who uses Pinboard without knowing anyone else on the service still gets 99% of the functionality that someone who has friends on the service gets. So it makes sense that a site like Pinboard can eventually plateau on the number of users and still remain successful (assuming users are paying a subscription).
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