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Re: Google Calendar is down

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Post by CaptSpify » Thu, Jun 30, 2016, 5:38 PM UTC

tuna-piano wrote: post #66

I wonder: What is the average downtime of Google Mail / calendar vs the average large corporation's exchange server? Another thought- when Google calendar / mail goes down - it's likely business users blame Google - not the IT group. When a self-hosted exchange server goes down, IT is probably blamed. Leaving an incentive to move toward cloud providers just to shift the blame.

This is, IME, why big shops try to push outsourcing as much as they can. Whether development or structure, passing the buck to someone else is politically better.

If you or your provider succeeds, you both can claim victory.

If you try to upgrade/restructure and fail, everyone blames you. If your provider tries to upgrade/restructure and fails, you can blame them, and everyone in your company agrees with you. So politically, you can save yourself from "losing".

Re: Google Calendar is down

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Post by izacus » Thu, Jun 30, 2016, 6:05 PM UTC

josefresco wrote: post #43

masnick wrote: post #37

One of the reasons I use FastMail ( https://fastmail.com ) for email and calendar rather than Google is that when outages happen, the explain what is going on ( http://www.fastmailstatus.com ). Outages are inevitable, so having (a) information and (b) the ability to contact a human are valuable features IMO.

I regularly contact humans at Google for support for my clients. Telephone rings, human operator picks up ... of course my clients are paying for their Google services, so if you're relying on the free version this doesn't (and shouldn't) apply.

Shouldn't?!

Re: Google Calendar is down

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Post by robbrit » Thu, Jun 30, 2016, 6:35 PM UTC

chapium wrote: post #80

dubmax123 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Calendar became self-aware today at 6:10am. The singularity is upon us.

...and it immediately shut down? Thats kind of depressing.

Perhaps it's a benevolent overlord, and it decided that cancelling all our meetings is the best way to make the world a better place.

Re: Google Calendar is down

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Post by Terribledactyl » Thu, Jun 30, 2016, 7:23 PM UTC

wfunction wrote: post #69

whamlastxmas wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also don't forget the fresh water pipes in your home are owned by Cleanly.io and leased to you, meaning you can no longer receive water until some other company acquires the remnants of Cleanly.io during their decade long bankruptcy proceedings. The sad thing this, that is not even really satire - ISPs own the fiber in office and multi-resident buildings all the time, and their use is only available to others by leas…

Silicon Valley, where people compare the necessity of Internet to that of water.

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2016/02/08/the-internet-is-a-g...

Re: Google Calendar is down

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Post by j45 » Thu, Jun 30, 2016, 10:32 PM UTC

tuna-piano wrote: post #66

I wonder: What is the average downtime of Google Mail / calendar vs the average large corporation's exchange server? Another thought- when Google calendar / mail goes down - it's likely business users blame Google - not the IT group. When a self-hosted exchange server goes down, IT is probably blamed. Leaving an incentive to move toward cloud providers just to shift the blame.

There are cloud based providers of Exchange that have more or less downtime than Exchange, or any email provider. I had hosted my own email servers for over 15 years because it was the normal thing to do when I started.

I don't remember the last time email has gone down for me, but calendar pain hurts me more.

On google now, and today's outage makes me realize it might be simpler to just install Zimbra and mirror it across two Amazon locations for another 10 years. I'm not a fan of email providers online because hotmail lost/deleted 15 years of my emails.