Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take it with a grain of salt: the Catalans will find any excuse to protest. I've lived all over the world and nothing even comes close to the number of street demonstrations I witnessed during my time in Barcelona.
Maybe it was the time you choose to be in Barcelona what was different, not the Catalan people?
Airbnb's impact on cities
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Re: Airbnb's impact on cities
#82https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
Edit: oops, I misread that comment, so have detached this one from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11980147 and marked it off topic.
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#83Tourists are human beings, same as residents. Tourists value the opportunity to visit for 2 weeks more than residents value the opportunity to live there for 2 weeks (as evidenced by their willingness to pay more). Why do you believe tourists deserve fewer rights than residents? I realize that in terms of blatant power struggles to control the means of violence, tourists will lose. But lets not pretend that's anythin…
Please don't go off into ideological boilerplate, not to mention flamewar fodder, like that.
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11980175 and marked it off-topic.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, I doubt most people find this to be true. I generally find clean private apartments in good areas, cheaper than hotels, sometimes cheaper than hostels too. Used to be more availability of single rooms for even cheaper too. Seems like prices have gone up over the last couple of years, but certainly not a surfeit of low quality expensive places.
If you want to call me a liar, I can find apart-hotel in Barcelona for you (4 stars, good reviews on Booking), and comparable set of rooms on Airbnb. And after that you will bring apologizes. Deal?
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you want to call me a liar, I can find apart-hotel in Barcelona for you (4 stars, good reviews on Booking), and comparable set of rooms on Airbnb. And after that you will bring apologizes. Deal?
Please don't escalate like this. People can (and do, and need to) disagree without calling each other a liar. One main purpose of discussion here is to share different experiences.
Only thing I regret is typo in previous comment in this branch.
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#88This article is better than a lot of comparables and the discussion isn't bad, so we've reduced the downweights (not Airbnb-related) that got automatically applied to this submission and replaced the baity title with something more neutral. If anyone wants to suggest a more accurate and neutral title, we can change it again.
Re: Airbnb's impact on cities
#89You've been posting uncivil and unsubstantive comments to Hacker News. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop doing that. Instead, please (re)-read the site guidelines and follow them. That means posting civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html Edit: oops, I misread that comment, so have detached this one from https:…
Even the original title reads "From Berlin to Barcelona; will Airbnb ruin our most loved cities?". If anything, you should ban the article.
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't escalate like this. People can (and do, and need to) disagree without calling each other a liar. One main purpose of discussion here is to share different experiences.
Answer "I disagree" is one thing, answer "you are wrong" - is fine also. Answer "it's not true" - is calling opponent a liar. It's offensive and I see nothing wrong in my try to defend myself. Only thing I regret is typo in previous comment in this branch.
> Answer "it's not true" - is calling opponent a liar.
That's literally what it's not doing. Equating these two things is escalating, i.e. substituting one utterance for a more provocative one and replying to that instead.
You may feel that the train of logic inevitably takes you there down a one-way deductive track. But there are many opportunities to get off that train, and good manners and civility demand that we do. If we don't, all disagreement ends in conflict, which is tedious (for everyone else) and destructive.
I wonder if there may be a crossed cultural channel here, because the gap between "you are wrong" and "it's not true" strikes me as tiny—not the chasm that you describe—and if anything, "you are wrong" sounds slightly less polite since it's more personal. This is the kind of thing that people with different cultural and language backgrounds routinely hear differently, and the presence of many different backgrounds on HN is one reason why we all need to be charitable in our interpretations.
p.s. I've fixed the typo for you.