I would really like a version of Soylent that doesn't use sucralose. That stuff leaves a nasty aftertaste.
Yeah, I can't believe they're stuck on that. Surely there's gotta be something better? Stevia? Monk fruit? The -tol's? Honey?
Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder
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Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder
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> 1) it can replace any meal 2) while not having to replace every meal, it certainly insinuates it can.. So...your beef with Soylent is that they insinuate that every meal can be replaced? You're free to enjoy food however you want, but you do realize just because they insinuate it, you don't have to follow that right? > So you are to tired to cook, but fit enough to run? And usually I have to get dressed, have to sh…
> your beef with Soylent is that they insinuate that every meal can be replaced Their kick starter didn't insinuate this, it explicitly said you could use it as a 100% meal replacement. Here's what happens in Soylent threads: Someone says how great this new thing is, this new total meal replacement Someone else says that liquid meal replacements are not new Some people will say that they're not marketed as 100% liqui…
Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is empirically wrong. Soy contains phytoestrogens which have no effect on the human endocrine system. You are more likely to become "feminized" by consuming cow's milk, which contains mammalian estrogen.
I'd love for that to be true, but the research I linked to says otherwise. If you have research you could point me to that supports what you're saying I'd be happy to read it.
You only linked to one published research article which explicitly states the "evidence does not support the positive effect of soy products on endocrine function". This contradicts your argument. But sure. I'll link you to several articles [1][2][3][4][5] which argue that there is currently insufficient evidence for the effect of phytoestrogens on male testosterone levels.
Further, the suggestion that phytoestrogens have the same effect as human sex hormones on the human endocrine system is not supported by research. While soy isoflavones do bind to estrogen receptors within the human body, this interaction is weak (as is the expression of these hormones) [6]. Not all estrogens are created equal. For example, phytoestrogens have been associated with a lower incidence of breast cancer whereas the opposite effect is observed with synthetic estrogens [7].
It is also important to note that phytoestrogens are found in literally hundreds of plant foods including apples, berries, carrots, wheat, rice, beans and lentils, oats, barley, and the list goes on. Yet, a study of 696 men concluded that vegans had 13% higher testosterone concentration than meat-eaters [8].
Finally, don't drink Soylent. You can get all of the nutrients you need from a whole foods, plant-based diet (sans B12) for much cheaper and it won't taste like shit.
[1] http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/10/3/179.full
[2] http://www.degruyter.com/dg/viewarticle.fullcontentlink:pdfe...
[3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106
[4] http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/abstr...
[5] http://www.clinsci.org/content/100/6/613
[6] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11305594
[7] http://www.jbc.org/content/276/21/17808.full
[8] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6...
Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wow... and I thought cereal was the lazy option.
Soylent powder isn't that clean anyway. It's much easier to wash a bowl than to clean your counter and scoop after making a Soylent meal.