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Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by xenophanes »

_debug_ wrote: post #76
blackguardx wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cut off the quote. Why? Here is the rest: "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could understand it." That was the essence of Richard's charm.

Because I do not want his charm to detract from the rest of it. (charisma > sexism) == wrong. Also, in my opinion, it is actually a bit sad that the lady says, "oh well, it's ok to be treated that way because he's a good teacher". This is exactly the kind of compromise that victims make too often. Bill Clinton was not even being sexist and he got tasered big time. I'm not sure why Feynman should get a pass.

The point is that he was somewhat sexist in some fairly normal ways, but at the same time he was extremely unsexist in ways that no one else was.

Other people may have been more polite than Feynman in casual situations, but when it came to serious discussion he treated women (and students) as equals better than other people.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by jey »

drinian wrote: post #61
zackattack wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that principled?? You hate when others benefit even if it's at no detriment to you?? SCARCITY THINKING :_( Okay, if you like reading text on your screen, you can also read it for free here: http://www.gorgorat.com

Someone registered that domain name just to host a pirated copy of a book? (Mind, it's one of my favorite books).

Hm, looks like it's a way to funnel PageRank into some spam links at the bottom of the page. I guess the theory is that people will link to that domain's copy of Surely You're Joking and pass some of the subsequent "google juice" onward to the spam.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by nazgulnarsil »

wallflower wrote: post #78
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in the slightest. At the risk of destroying my chances of ever getting into YC (hi JL, PG, RTM et al!) I had astonishingly great luck with asking attractive women if they wanted to make out with me last Spring. Seriously: "hey, let's make out!" or "would it unduly offend you if I asked you to make out with me?" You're probably better off asking this sort of thing after conversing with them for a bit so you don't…

The shock & awe opener http://www.rsdwiki.com/index.php?title=SHOCK_and_AWE..._The_...

the value in trying this and having it work is that you instantly understand just how little any of the surface bullshit matters. confidence. end of story. there is nothing else.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by frossie »

barry-cotter wrote: post #72
Simucal wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm genuinely curious if anyone has studied the differences in the sexes when it comes to math. Why is it no woman has won the fields medal? Why do many talented women stop their academic career at the bachelor and masters level when it comes to mathematics? I think you would of been able to say that sexism in academia was a reason in the past, but I just don't think that really flies anymore. Is it possible the genu…

edit: http://www.pnas.org/content/106/22/8801.full Two recent studies directly address the question of whether greater male variability in mathematics is a ubiquitous phenomenon. Machin and Pekkarinen (19) reported that the M:F VR in mathematics was significantly >1.00 at the P ... Similarly, Penner's cross-nation analysis of the 1995 TIMSS data (20) showed that the proportion of girls scoring above the 95th percenti…

Well, I can do better than that in 5 minutes but that's because I have paid a lot of attention to this question.

I think the most conclusive evidence that M/F math gaps are cultural in origin lies in international studies, where the gap ranges from negligible in progressive countries (eg. Scandinavia) to massive in less equal societies (eg Turkey).

http://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-136-1-103.pdf

Generally the anglo-saxon socities (UK, USA, Australia) are "middling" in this.

Of course this only covers "normal" math abilities (ie the ability to understand school/college math). "Genius" level ability is a lot harder to quantify, partly because it is such small number statistics and there are many confounding social variables to do with access to and selection pressures of post-graduate education.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by nandemo »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #12
dwwoelfel wrote: post #6

This probably only works if you're Richard Feynman.

Not in the slightest. At the risk of destroying my chances of ever getting into YC (hi JL, PG, RTM et al!) I had astonishingly great luck with asking attractive women if they wanted to make out with me last Spring. Seriously: "hey, let's make out!" or "would it unduly offend you if I asked you to make out with me?" You're probably better off asking this sort of thing after conversing with them for a bit so you don't…

Seriously, you should leave out the "would it unduly offend you" part. If you don't believe me, try an A/B test and report the results to us.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by msie »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #12
dwwoelfel wrote: post #6

This probably only works if you're Richard Feynman.

Not in the slightest. At the risk of destroying my chances of ever getting into YC (hi JL, PG, RTM et al!) I had astonishingly great luck with asking attractive women if they wanted to make out with me last Spring. Seriously: "hey, let's make out!" or "would it unduly offend you if I asked you to make out with me?" You're probably better off asking this sort of thing after conversing with them for a bit so you don't…

Hmmm, good-looking guy doesn't have a problem with the ladies. What a surprise!

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by powauth »

winter_blue wrote: post #31
winter_blue wrote: post #27

This seems to have happened in the late 1930s or the early 1940s (he says "while I was working on the bomb".) From what I've heard, the US was very conservative at that time; girls & women in general did not have sex before marriage. And additionally was contraception widely available at that time? The sexual revolution happened in the 60s and 70s. So, this does not make any sense. Can someone enlighten me?

This story by Freedman totally goes against what I've thought US/Western attitudes towards sex were in the 40s. (I thought the US was an uber-conservative sex-only-after-marriage & sex-only-for-producing children society.) Does anyone have any links/references to articles/papers/studies that show that the US was already laissez-faire about sex as early as the late-30s/early-40s?

*Feynman :p

sex-only-for-producing children is a bit of a stretch. The link to Ebert's blog post above describes pre-1960s society pretty well; couples were sexual, but if they weren't married (or at least engaged), they probably weren't having sex.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by powauth »

nazgulnarsil wrote: post #83
wallflower wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shock & awe opener http://www.rsdwiki.com/index.php?title=SHOCK_and_AWE..._The_...

the value in trying this and having it work is that you instantly understand just how little any of the surface bullshit matters. confidence. end of story. there is nothing else.

Well, for the 14% of the population that works on, sure.

Confidence is key, but there is a difference between a confident stud and a confident creep.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by nandemo »

_debug_ wrote: post #76
blackguardx wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You cut off the quote. Why? Here is the rest: "On the other hand, he is the only one who ever explained quantum mechanics to me as if I could understand it." That was the essence of Richard's charm.

Because I do not want his charm to detract from the rest of it. (charisma > sexism) == wrong. Also, in my opinion, it is actually a bit sad that the lady says, "oh well, it's ok to be treated that way because he's a good teacher". This is exactly the kind of compromise that victims make too often. Bill Clinton was not even being sexist and he got tasered big time. I'm not sure why Feynman should get a pass.

Because I do not want his charm to detract from the rest of it. (charisma > sexism) == wrong.

I'd say that the type of (charisma > sexism) is boolean -- maybe fuzzy boolean given the fuzzy quality of the operands -- not right|wrong.

In any case you're entitled to your opinion; the problem is that you did some blatantly unfair editing there. If someone says "Steve is an asshole, but I have to admit he's a great CEO", you're not supposed to quote only the first sentence, no matter how much you think being an asshole is a bad thing.

Re: Richard Feynman on getting laid: "You Just Ask Them?"

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

nandemo wrote: post #85
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in the slightest. At the risk of destroying my chances of ever getting into YC (hi JL, PG, RTM et al!) I had astonishingly great luck with asking attractive women if they wanted to make out with me last Spring. Seriously: "hey, let's make out!" or "would it unduly offend you if I asked you to make out with me?" You're probably better off asking this sort of thing after conversing with them for a bit so you don't…

Seriously, you should leave out the "would it unduly offend you" part. If you don't believe me, try an A/B test and report the results to us.

"unduly offended" never failed. The former did once.
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