As an aside, has anyone here created a Xamarin android app using material design? I was recently trying to integrate their component for the design support library, but it seemed horribly buggy.
Xamarin Open-Sourced
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Honestly, say what you will about Google, but I can't imagine them ever threatening another software company with software patents. That is a naive fanboy outlook towards a company. Its a well known fact that Google bought Motorola only for the patents. Google has also managed to use the patents to sue other companies including Microsoft. Although I still believe it is the game that is flawed and not the players. Go…
I am not a Google fanboy, I am merely saying they abide by the spirit of Open Source. I just used them as an example. RedHat is another example. > Google has also managed to use the patents to sue other companies including Microsoft. Can you post a link to Google suing Microsoft first (not in retaliation)? Google was way behind in the patent game until they got hurt. Google bought Motorola to have a defensive patent…
> MS is doing Open Source today because it really has no choice
And that's a good thing. It shows the strength of open source.
MS is a company. Just as Google. Companies will "work towards the best interests of the movement" as long as those interests converge with theirs: make money.
AFAIK large portions of Google's core business are closed source. They are not in open source for love.
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#83Is linux support for xamarin.android planned?
I'm not sure how credible this is but there might be comming something.
https://www.reddit.com/r/programmerchat/comments/4dxpcp/i_am...
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on how you learn. Some learn by being around others, social interaction, asking questions and absorbing knowledge. It's clear you fall into the latter category which likes to learn by diving right into the code, so here it is: .NET CLR Managed Runtime - https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr .NET Framework - https://github.com/dotnet/corefx .NET Compiler as a Service ("Roslyn") - https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn .…
You seem to be dodging the question. The question is why -you- are linking to gitter.
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Depends on how you learn. Some learn by being around others, social interaction, asking questions and absorbing knowledge. It's clear you fall into the latter category which likes to learn by diving right into the code, so here it is: .NET CLR Managed Runtime - https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr .NET Framework - https://github.com/dotnet/corefx .NET Compiler as a Service ("Roslyn") - https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn .…
You seem to be dodging the question. The question is why -you- are linking to gitter.
Losen up, linking to something may be subjective. If it's not correct, HN mods can change the URL ;)
Perhaps it's not a bad idea for widening the community ( linking to gitter). I'm actually wondering if they ever used jabber, a not-well-known community for chatting about .net
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#86It has been super exciting watching this all unfold over the last year, for those wondering where to get started in the new world of .NET open source - start here: .NET CLR Managed Runtime - https://gitter.im/dotnet/coreclr .NET Framework - https://gitter.im/dotnet/corefx .NET Compiler as a Service ("Roslyn") - https://gitter.im/dotnet/roslyn .NET Orleans Actor Framework - https://gitter.im/dotnet/orleans Mono Framew…
Somewhat echoing what spriggan3 said, it seems odd that you suggest going straight to chat to learn about a piece of software rather than trying to find answers to your questions before bothering other people. To me (and this may be a function of where I'm from), it seems very rude to ask for help with something when you don't absolutely need said help (RTFM Noob!). It's entirely possible you meant your comment for p…
Let's be clear, this isn't left-pad we are talking about - these are MASSIVE projects which are in some cases 16+ years old. Personally, I find the fastest way to get up to speed is on projects of this size is to usually jump into IRC, find a mentor and start sending in documentation patches. Here the engineers for the runtime, framework, compiler teams are hanging out in Gitter and engaging with the community out in the open instead of being hidden behind closed doors. Why would you ignore an opportunity like that? They are there soliciting the advice from the community and if the there is no uptake/reciprocal energy then that's a problem. I agree on RTFM but at this stage, there is minimal documentation for the majority of these projects and that internal domain knowledge needs to be dispersed into the community. Code only tells you about the implementation, it does not tell you about the why and information about trade-offs which were made.
http://dirkriehle.com/publications/2014-2/the-five-stages-of...
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly disagree with your stance against patents, disregarding dull patents and the issues they bring like patent trolls, I really believe that the industry needs patents to prevent unfair competition. The issue is the length of patents, the Software industry doesn't need 20 year-long patents, it's too much time, at most a patent should be valid for 5 years... And well, we also need mechanisms to punish people wh…
I don't understand exactly what you mean by "dull patents". Is that a standard term? I'm not well versed in this space, but Google's not returning much for that phrase. I'm guessing you mean overly broad or generic patents, i.e., not sharp and specific. I'm thinking something like a patent for adding an item to a virtual shopping cart. Am I inferring correctly?
I used `dull patent` as a synonym of `stupid patent`[1], so you are right with the meaning you inferred.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A project under MIT license and accepting PR is good enough for me He is not pretending to be an arbiter but speaking generally to what many people, including myself, believe. And in any case, you attempted to refute what you reduced down to his own subjective opinion, with your own subjective opinion. Working against software patents is part of the larger essence of OSS, and it was just a specific example of it. I…
Lets agree there are levels of open-ness and not being a Gnu-level or RedHat level OSS does not mean the contributions are not worth it nor should not be acknowledged.
Well I will most certainly agree there is "publicly accessible" source, which is essentially what Microsoft, Facebook, and the likes have, where you can view the code, but getting a pull request accepted requires signing a CLA (with varying levels of avarice) and conforming to the goals of the organization, rather than the project. (Actually I will defend facebook by saying their CLA is not that egregious, and according to most, the version of react that is open sourced is actually different than the version they use internally), but calling that "Open Source Software" is disingenuous at best.
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#89It has been super exciting watching this all unfold over the last year, for those wondering where to get started in the new world of .NET open source - start here: .NET CLR Managed Runtime - https://gitter.im/dotnet/coreclr .NET Framework - https://gitter.im/dotnet/corefx .NET Compiler as a Service ("Roslyn") - https://gitter.im/dotnet/roslyn .NET Orleans Actor Framework - https://gitter.im/dotnet/orleans Mono Framew…
Why do you link to gitter when you should actually like to the repos instead ?
> Why do you link to gitter when you should actually like to the repos instead ?
Before I clicked the link I imagined it to be some sort of annotated source code thing. (imagine the inline code with yellow "sticky notes" applied)
Turns out it's just an IRC type chat client. Still interesting.
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#90Quick question for .NET developers: is there a solution for totally command line driven workflows yet? I really don't want to mess around with .SLN files and IDEs like Visual Studio and MonoDevelop. I'm sure VS is fine for people who like it, but I really want something like `cargo build` or `go build`.
.NET CORE is exactly this ( https://github.com/dotnet/cli ) 'dotnet build' to build it.
yes and no of course ... yes dotnet cli will be exactly this and it will be GREAT (IMO)
but it isn't actually "out" yet (you can get your hands on it but it will be buggy)
still, will be 100% fantastic.