Live data from Hacker News

Now: realtime Node.js deployments

zeit.co

81–90 of 121 posts

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#83
post #76
post #3

CEO of https://zeit.co here! Happy to answer any questions throughout the day :)

Something that’s bothering me is: Is there any way to deploy via `now` with secrets? You know: API keys or the like? `_src` is always public in the free plan and I don’t see any documentation around providing environment variables.

my guess is that for free tier, it's targeted at demo/tutorial so environment variables wouldn't be necessary. If you are serious about privacy then you have to upgrade to paid tier.

But heroku does offer environment variables to free tier and it is handy for database keys and 3rd part API keys, so I guess they will add that at some point through some user-facing web interface or just cli options.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#85
post #27
post #15

Red Hat Openshift has a solid free tier, free SSL, git push deployments, node / ruby / python / java / php / etc., mysql / postgres, redis. Why would I use this over that? https://www.openshift.com/

This seems like a different use case than those solutions. This is if you're working on a project and you want to share the state of what you're working on across the net. Think of it like a point-in-time disposable link shortner but for a full node app.

Checkout https://localtunnel.me

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#86
post #72
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's "reproducible" in the sense that it starts from scratch every time, rather than sometimes starting from scratch, and other times starting with a pre-populated node_modules. If you want actual versioning reproducibility, you'll need to put an npm-shrinkwrap.json in your root.

I see. They shouldn’t use the word “reproducible” then, because something is either reproducible or it’s not. If they just mean, “We ignore everything but your package.json to generate a deploy,” say that, don’t mis-use the word “reproducible.” (Heroku, for example, has put a lot of effort into making deploying to their platform actually, truly, really-the-same-years-into-the-future reproducible. `npm install`, espec…

> `now` doesn't seem to be using shrinkwrap

They aren't? I haven't tried a deployment, but was hoping/assuming they'd upload a shrinkwrap along with everything else and that it would drive the install as per usual.

> I’m still not 100% if I get what they are doing or not.

I think their angle is to lower barriers to entry close to zero for cloud deployments, and thus drain a shallow ocean. "Shallow" in the sense that there are devs who are interested, but maybe not interested enough to buy into terminology like "dynos" or "cartridges" or "lambdas". "Ocean" in the sense that there are (supposedly) quite a few of these people.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#87
post #84

Hey man, keep up the good work. I'm sorry this forum is so filled with trolls these days.

I'm sorry that you treat anyone with different viewpoints from yours as a troll. Don't worry, I'm not taking this personally.

That you can't see how much of a dick you're being when you accuse someone of playing "buzzword bingo" is proof to me that you can't be anything but a god damned troll. This isn't about having different viewpoints. This is about you objectively being an asshole.

Edit: Sorry, TRIGGER WARNING: Real things are being said.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#88

Had to read three pages and still haven't quite confirmed that this is node.js hosting. But based on the pricing page, I guess it is. Can you please just say that? Just say "It's node hosting and the deployment system is fast." You literally just stole some of my life.

it literally says "now: realtime node.js deployments" on the top on the page.

> You literally just stole some of my life. he absolutely did not! You decided to spend time investigating what now is, he did not steal anything from anyone.

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#89

Had to read three pages and still haven't quite confirmed that this is node.js hosting. But based on the pricing page, I guess it is. Can you please just say that? Just say "It's node hosting and the deployment system is fast." You literally just stole some of my life.

We'll add the keyword "hosting" in some of the explanations which should help. Thanks for the feedback!

Re: Now: realtime Node.js deployments

#90
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry that you treat anyone with different viewpoints from yours as a troll. Don't worry, I'm not taking this personally.

That you can't see how much of a dick you're being when you accuse someone of playing "buzzword bingo" is proof to me that you can't be anything but a god damned troll. This isn't about having different viewpoints. This is about you objectively being an asshole. Edit: Sorry, TRIGGER WARNING: Real things are being said.

If I were accused of buzzword bingo, i'd try to take it as good-natured criticism that what I said was perhaps a little too filled with lingo to have a solid meaning.

It's certainly possible to read this example as a trollish remark, there's also a perfectly valid reading which interprets it as an attempt to provide useful feedback. Since I assume neither of us knows q3k, we're not in a position to know which is true, except for q3k telling us.

Post reply on HN