Docker for Mac and Windows Beta • Hacker News Board

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by shykes » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:34 PM UTC

jnardiello wrote: post #76

To be entirely honest, I'm quite concerned about your choice on choosing Alpine as the base distro. Their choice of using musl over glibc might be cool but if you have to put old libs inside a container, it's hell (if not entirely incompatible).

The use of musl on the host, outside the container, has absolutely no impact on the choice of libc inside the container. The team chose alpine because it's lightweight, well-maintained and security-oriented. You are free to use any distro you want inside the container, and that will never change.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by bradhe » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:35 PM UTC

This is amazingly cool. We've been using docker at Reflect (shameless: https://reflect.io) since we started it and even if we didn't have all the cgroups features, it'd be super helpful just to be able to run the stack on my laptop directly instead of having the Vagrant indirection.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by sina » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:36 PM UTC

avsm wrote: post #12

_mikz wrote: post #5

Sounds like https://github.com/nlf/dlite

[I work at Docker on the announced Mac app] Nathan LaFreniere (the author of dlite) is awesome, and we've been exchanging tips and tricks and areas where we can collaborate. He knew exactly where to press to find bugs in our earlier betas...

I am very excited about the new Mac app and I want to try it.

At the moment I use dlite. The thing I love about it is that it's transparent. I hope that the new Mac app has an option or mode to be like that too (start on system boot, doesn't create a new desktop window/gui, SSH from terminal would be enough for me).

Something analogous to MacVim's -v flag; by default "mvim" opens a new app with its own window, but "mvim -v" starts Vim inside current terminal. Not a great analogy, sorry about that.

Thanks.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by matthewmacleod » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:38 PM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #64

The last time I used xhyve, it kernel panic'ed my mac. Researching this on the xhyve github account [1] showed that it was determined that it's due to a bug with Virtualbox. That is, if you've started a virtual machine since your last reboot with Virtualbox, subsequent starts of xhyve panic. So, buyer beware, especially if said buyer also uses tools like Vagrant. [1] https://github.com/mist64/xhyve/issues/5 I've said…

Yes, I think this issue has been addressed for a while – it was solved in a release of Virtualbox. I'm sure that 5.0+ doesn't have the conflict with xhyve.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by shykes » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:39 PM UTC

darren0 wrote: post #47

jdub wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the blog post: "Many of the OS-level integration innovations will be open sourced to the Docker community when these products are made generally available later this year."

Yes, I'll be excited when the lower bits will be open sourced, as that is what I care most to see (I don't even run Mac/Windows). But in an era when even Microsoft is open sourcing and giving developer tools away for free, the idea that this won't be an open source product is odd.

We want to open-source the system components separately, so that you can use them separately from docker if you wish. That is different (and more useful) than just dropping a big xcode project on github and letting you dig for the gems. We want to do it right which takes extra work.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by shykes » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:39 PM UTC

daveguy wrote: post #50

jdub wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the blog post: "Many of the OS-level integration innovations will be open sourced to the Docker community when these products are made generally available later this year."

But not all? Any comment from the Docker folks on here? I thought docker was open source.

Yes, all the components will be open-sourced.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by d_sc » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:40 PM UTC

This is great news to hear, I've been using a brew recipe that includes: brew install xhyve docker docker-compose docker-machine docker-machine-driver-xhyve to get close to what they're doing in this beta. Really looking forward to trying this out. Signed up for the beta!

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by bpicolo » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:41 PM UTC

matthewmacleod wrote: post #80

_mikz wrote: post #5

Sounds like https://github.com/nlf/dlite

Yes, I've been using this for some time too. It's pretty great, totally recommended to anyone who is fed up with docker-machine or docker-compose or whatever random tool is currently required.

Ditto. It sped up my Docker development wait times by like 5x compared to the virtualbox stack.

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by mateuszf » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:45 PM UTC

When I log in and go to https://beta.docker.com/form there is an empty form and js console says: Uncaught ReferenceError: MktoForms2 is not defined

Re: Docker for Mac and Windows Beta

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Post by otterley » Thu, Mar 24, 2016, 3:45 PM UTC

darren0 wrote: post #40

This is an amazing announcement, but... The beta requires a NDA. The source code is also not available. This gives the impression that this will be a closed commercial product and that really takes the wind out of my sails.

Why? Great products are worth paying for.