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Mandrill’s Betrayal

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Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#82

We were relying on Mandrill to send a lot of emails. The problem with Mailgun, Sendgrid and others is that they're too expensive, which means they're unaffordable by our bootstrapped startup. Is there any service that has pricing similar to Mandrill?

Hi nakodari - SparkPost is matching Mandrill's pricing and offers 100k/mo free plan. Check out our migration guide: https://www.sparkpost.com/mandrill-migration-guide

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#83
post #70

Some head-to-head comparisons of Mailgun and SendGrid, for those trying to find an alternative provider. - Free Tier : Up to 10k emails/mo with Mailgun, up to 12k with SendGrid. - Low Volume : To send 100,000 emails/mo on a shared IP, you'll pay $45 with Mailgun or $20 with SendGrid. - High Volume : To send 300,000 emails/mo on a dedicated IP, you'll pay $204 with Mailgun or $199 with SendGrid. - Deliverability : In…

The Mailgun spam rate of 37.5% [1] seems both awful and unusual as no other provider seems to suffer from this. Does anyone know if this data is flawed, or what's the story here? [1] As reported by https://www.inboxtrail.com/compare

We had issues every few months because the server we were assigned would be added to a RBL. Customers would notice, we'd talk to Mailgun and they would move us to another server. rinse, repeat.

The only way to avoid this was to get a dedicated IP which is an additional $59 / month.

I'm not sure why Mailgun couldn't detect this themselves, maybe they do now.

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#84
post #78

Mailchimp has a made a terrible mistake. Firstly: Before, you could get "up to 12k emails per month" for free. Now, you get 2k free sends once (for dev), and then have to pay $9.95/mo. This all sounds actually great, so far (although, I think $4.95/mo would have been a better bottom-tier plan - the goal is to get rid of users that don't pay anything but send 12k emails per month). $9.95/mo is affordable to any startu…

Couldn't agree more. I was sending a couple of thousand emails a month with mandrill for free. Would have happily paid 9.95 a month. But when I got their email, and read their blogpost, it was completely unclear what I had to pay. The message I got from them was, "sorry, don't want your business." With this, and Kimono, in one week, I am moving to amamzon ses, though it has very few reporting features. Sorry Sendgrid…

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Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#85

Reminder: SendGrid fired Adria Richards for calling out inappropriate behavior at a tech conference. If this bothers you, please put your dollars in a place more in-line with your values. http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/breaking-adria-richards-fi...

Oh good grief, not this again.

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#86
post #64

Everybody talk about Mailgun, but there are other valuable alternatives: Sendgrid, AWS SES, Postmark. At Redokun we use Postmark. It proved to have a good deliverability and the UI is very good.

Postmark is super unreliable for large volume - their servers are down periodically and their email is periodically delayed for hours.

It still does not support multiple admin roles per account.

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#87
Ah, might be worth pointing out my earlier proposal[0] in the HN discussion when the Mandrill announcement happened. I was surprised by the response I got, with >300 people leaving their email address. A number of providers emailed me as well, so I'm still planning to send out whatever I get to everyone on Thursday.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11173325

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#88
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is where we're at too. We've long been evangelizing Mailchimp and Mandrill in our product, and as a result have sent plenty of customers their way. In fact, our product almost relies on them as a pair. Now, because of the ToS, we have to remove it from our product and port our users somewhere else...and fast. We also have to port our own servers to another service, and fast. I remember the day we finally had eno…

> We also have to port our own servers to another service, and fast. Once you've done that you should look at what other services you rely significantly upon and see about mitigating the risk there by having an alternative ready to go (or even sharing the load). At a previous startup we realised we relied wholly upon Mandrill and so reimplemented the sending code so that half of the emails went out via Mandrill and t…

Great minds, we did the same thing though, we always sent 100% through mandrill just to be able to investigate delivery issues more simply, quick change and send grid is up and elasticmail.com is looking good

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#89

Reminder: SendGrid fired Adria Richards for calling out inappropriate behavior at a tech conference. If this bothers you, please put your dollars in a place more in-line with your values. http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/breaking-adria-richards-fi...

Oh good grief, not this again.

You knew it was coming.

Re: Mandrill’s Betrayal

#90
post #78

Mailchimp has a made a terrible mistake. Firstly: Before, you could get "up to 12k emails per month" for free. Now, you get 2k free sends once (for dev), and then have to pay $9.95/mo. This all sounds actually great, so far (although, I think $4.95/mo would have been a better bottom-tier plan - the goal is to get rid of users that don't pay anything but send 12k emails per month). $9.95/mo is affordable to any startu…

Couldn't agree more. I was sending a couple of thousand emails a month with mandrill for free. Would have happily paid 9.95 a month. But when I got their email, and read their blogpost, it was completely unclear what I had to pay. The message I got from them was, "sorry, don't want your business." With this, and Kimono, in one week, I am moving to amamzon ses, though it has very few reporting features. Sorry Sendgrid…

Sendgrid has been in the game for a long time and has it as their core business (unlike mandrill). So I wouldn't be too afraid of them closing down overnight.
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