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Engineers of Jihad: Connection between Violent Extremism and Education

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Re: Engineers of Jihad: Connection between Violent Extremism and Education

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Could it be because conservative people tend to be disciplined which requires certain amount of will in the first place ? Just a theory...

I don't think that's it. I'm afraid I know of plenty of undisciplined people that lean far right.

The conservative people I know certainly like to talk about discipline...

Re: Engineers of Jihad: Connection between Violent Extremism and Education

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This was completely predicted by Peter Thiel in Zero to One. There's a common set of personality traits, a little related to Asperger's, where one works from first principles, is less influenced by what other people think, has less groupthink, and is more comfortable being outside of social norms. This is a trait shared by entrepreneurs, engineers, and extremists. There's a high overlap between the three. Social norm…

The smartest people tend to do the most 'good' and the most 'bad'. It seems like no matter the endeavor, intelligence makes you much more likely to be successful. It also tracks pretty closely with how high conviction you are.

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This was completely predicted by Peter Thiel in Zero to One. There's a common set of personality traits, a little related to Asperger's, where one works from first principles, is less influenced by what other people think, has less groupthink, and is more comfortable being outside of social norms. This is a trait shared by entrepreneurs, engineers, and extremists. There's a high overlap between the three. Social norm…

It's really more likely -- and I'm replying without having read the topic article -- that this is related to the fact that developing states with "socialist" (I use the term advisedly) bents tended to privilege engineering, medical and scientific education in its universities, while not having economies capable of effectively supporting those graduates. Take a bunch of middle and upper-middle class students whose par…

I've read that the old socialist government in India produced more engineers and other technical people than the economy could absorb. And it was nearly impossible to start a business either. Why a lot of Indian technical people came to the united states to work.

I'm under the impression that in a lot of middle eastern countries it's not real hard to get into university. However the universities are corrupt. To get good grades means cheating and subtle and or not so subtle bribes to your professors. And once you are out if the fix isn't in for you, you're not going to get a job.

I've noted in my career that you have three kinds of engineering students. Those that go into it for the money. Those that go into it because they have some grand narcissistic idea that they'll changed the world. And those that are more or less happy to spend the rest of their career designing trash pumps. The first drift into sales and management. The second are potential a source of terrorists. And the latter are guys like me.

Re: Engineers of Jihad: Connection between Violent Extremism and Education

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Tunisian here. My country is sadly known as the first exporter of ISIS fighters. I couldn't agree more with this! It is mostly attributed to the educational system. Engineering studies are focused mostly on math and physics and albeit present, Languages are treated like scond-class subjects. You end up with a generation of students who are effective engineers (to an extent) but who can't think at all. They are not ta…

What about everyone who didn't go to school at all, at least not more than three of four years? They don't have an education in arts, philosophy or languages either.
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