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Yeah, what does that even mean ?
As a european i'm really shocked that this kind of tumblr bullshit invade top tech company like Github...
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#82"Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women." edit : also : "it is very hard to even interview people who are 'white'"
Yeah, what does that even mean ?
I think what she's saying is that usually when tech companies talk about diversity they mean they really are talking about increasing the number of women in tech. To her, at least, that's not as important as increasing the number of minorities in tech. So as "white women" are in one group but not the other, the are bad because they are minorities in disguise. Even with that, it's a terrible thing to put on a slide without any added context.
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#83"top lawyer, Julio Avalos, 'has amassed great power' in the company" It's often not a good sign when the top engineers or star salesmen aren't running a tech company.
Great power != running the company. It specifically mentions he's taken over corpdev and some other functions
Also note that Julio is a very technical guy.
Note that what you have seen here is nearly identical to what david drummond did at Google (start as legal, take over some other functions like corpdev) in the early years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Drummond_(Google)
It's hard to say this didn't work out amazingly well.
I'm also completely unsure why, without any evidence (in this article or elsewhere), you would assume that whatever power Julio has, he's using in a way that stagnates things, instead of using it in a way that enables folks to get shit done.
(David is the reason Google was willing to take so many legal/etc risks for the past N years)
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#84> With plenty of competitors, including Atlassian, GitLab, and even Google, one thing is certain: If GitHub does stumble, there are plenty of companies that want to pick up its slack. Atlassian? Oh god. Their software might be ideal for corporate beancounters and expensive consultants, but for everyone else it's a nightmare. GitLab? A pile of memory leaks and other weirdness. Google? Not so much, I highly doubt they'…
Actually Gitlab could be a replacement, I use it with 10 dev team + customers and we have absolutely no problem.
We tried to switch. After few days devs make a note on the table "X days without GitLab being down". X always was < 2.
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#85> "We’re trying to build a new kind of enterprise company where the playbooks of old won’t always work" By replacing flat meritocracy and remote work with traditional top-down management? > "don't think we'll succeed teaching white, male middle managers empathy and compassion anytime soon, so let's limit their scope of damage" So the technical director and member of the social-impact team is a blatant racist.
GitHub has, since the Horvath incident, made it pretty clear what kind of person they want to hire. And, frankly, that's fine.
There are plenty of places where I, as a competent white male, can get hired and promoted without difficulty. The fact that Github isn't one of those is not a systematic problem. More power to them.
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#86This article could have been written better. It has two themes going on. Github is restructuring and the lack of diversity in tech. Why did they unnecessarily mention diversity in the context of the reorganization of github? Because that is the corporate BS that is popular to spout when you are redefining power within your company. Make no mistake github is doing restructuring to position themselves for large corpora…
It also seemed odd that it implied that whatever the new structure is does not include meritocracy. Does "meritocracy" really mean "no managers"?
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#87I Hope to see GitLab, and other Truly Open Systems, replace GitHub as the go to place for source control
Why? I mean, I'm always happy to see competition keeping companies on their toes, but why do you actively want people to leave GitHub?
In some part it can be simple ease of use.
Most larger companies will not use a third party cloud service to host their code like github.com. They want software to run locally on their own servers instead.
Github offers their software to enterprise customers to run on their own servers, but they traditionally have done a bad job doing it, at least relative to gitlab. Today, dozens of open projects and even closed ones are using personal gitlab instances, but since the ecosystem is more open on gitlab contributions come back in to make it a much more friendly tool to self-host.
Tons of larger companies favor gitlab for exactly that reason.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, what does that even mean ?
I think what she's saying is that usually when tech companies talk about diversity they mean they really are talking about increasing the number of women in tech. To her, at least, that's not as important as increasing the number of minorities in tech. So as "white women" are in one group but not the other, the are bad because they are minorities in disguise. Even with that, it's a terrible thing to put on a slide wi…
well, the only important thing that matter is skills / experiences, because choosing people (or not) for their race or gender is really... at least weird.
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#89So where should I move all my repos now?
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#90This is standard stuff for a growing company. Right down to the disillusionment of the rank and file. I'm curious if anyone in the HN community has worked for a > 500 person company with a flat structure.
What a lot of commenters seemed to miss is that the remote work policy applies exclusively to senior managers.
Senior managers are no longer allowed to live afar and must report to the office.
These are the people that are usually on a separate bonus plan and receive an order of magnitude more stock options. It seems totally reasonable that they should have to come into the office.