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Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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Honest questions, if you don't mind: - What types of systems are these? - When you say "40 year history", do you mean the system was originally written in the 70's, or do you mean it has data going back to then? - Why do you need to keep data for 30 years? Regulatory reasons? Reporting? Or just long-lived data? I'm not doubting anything you're saying. It's easy to imagine systems with those attributes, say, in bankin…

No problem -- I'm really passionate about this topic! .gov stuff. Every state in the union has social services systems that were stood up in the 60s and 70s, and have or are being transitioned over time from whatever mainframe they were in to modern stuff. Usually the long term stuff is retained. These folks deal with situations like disabled children who become wards of the state. Their records need to exist well un…

Cool. Thanks.

BTW, I think you're 100% correct about this becoming more important / more of a visible problem. On a small scale, it's something I wrestle with often. For example, I love the convenience of buying a book on my Kindle, but I'm reminded of the joy of wandering through my grandparents' library and wonder if my daughter (and so on) will be able to have a similar experience – what happens to those my Amazon purchases after I'm gone? Another example is that I keep a sporadic journal in Evernote. Should I really be printing out those writings in case I have a curious descendant? I've enjoyed reading letters and journals of ancestors.

On the other hand, digitalization has obvious benefits too. But we have to be deliberate in our curation and storage format.

For example, it's great that correspondence (email) is now automatically archived rather than it being a tedious process (carbon copy, hand-copying, etc.). But how many people backup their email out of their cloud provider to a personally owned copy in a human-readable format? I actually do backup my Gmail account occasionally. But I doubt my wife knows where it is. Or if she'd be able to look past the XML format. And even if she did, there are literally millions of emails in there from mailing lists and work stuff and spam and whatever. The percentage of actual meaningful correspondence is unbelievably low.

I don't know. It's a big problem, I think.

Re: OneOps – Open-source cloud ops platform from Walmart

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You might want to take a look at https://github.com/StackStorm/st2 if you want python support, chatops, UI, a GUI editor for writing workflows and a strong community. Disclaimer: I am a programmer at StackStorm. I'd be happy to help.

I love stackstorm, and chatops, but don't quite see how it's comparable to this cloud project.

Fair enough. +1 to ChatOps enabled via StackStorm. Disclosure - I work at StackStorm. What we have seen is that over time event driven automation can play the role of any such opinionated approach to cloud orchestration and even as an alternative to heavy reliance on PAAS layers. Event driven automation like StackStorm tends to err on the side of flexibility (use your own scripts, click together the workflows, do your own IFTTT) whereas solutions like OneOps are more polished out of the box and more focused on a particular pipeline. Having said that - StackStorm for ChatOps and especially remediation is the most common way people adopt StackStorm and that use case is quite different than the Walmart project.
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