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Apple Car Challenges: Sobering Thoughts

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Re: Apple Car Challenges: Sobering Thoughts

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there’s no Moore’s Law for batteries — their “power” doesn’t double every 18 or 24 months. However, industry-wide figures for power density show a clear upward trend. It's not exponential like Moore's law, but in just under a decade or so, electric cars are going to have range parity with gasoline ones. Also, the graph is misleading. If you combine Tesla EV and other EVs, there is a very promising upward curve in the…

>but in just under a decade or so, electric cars are going to have range parity with gasoline ones. Only if investment and breakthroughs continue. Moore's law worked out well because people kept buying computers constantly since they were useful even while much slower. When it comes to electric cars though, there is little incentive for consumers to buy them at the moment so there is a significant risk of investment…

Only if investment and breakthroughs continue.

Investment and breakthroughs in lithium ion batteries were not and are not only driven by electric vehicles. Far, far from it, as a matter of fact.

Re: Apple Car Challenges: Sobering Thoughts

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The problem I see with this kind of carsharing is that it does not scale particularly well to rush hours. I must note though that I'm living in Germany where Uber is not really a thing yet (mostly because of regulatory problems), so if anyone can share insight on how Uber scales to the rush hour, that'd be great.

At the moment each adult owns one car. (all the adults I know have at least one car each) I'd say at rush hour 2/3 of those cars are being used. I'd imagine Uber would just buy thousands of cars. Why not? What's to stop them? I'd just scrap my car and have an Uber car parked somewhere close to my house. I don't care, just so long as I can get to work. I imagine that utilities will soon provide automatic Uber car dock…

Fascinating.

And fun fact: I'm 26 and I don't have a driver's license. So do many of my peers. I totally rely on public transit (save for the few occasions where I need to move furniture etc.). Public transit service is exceptionally good and reliable in most of Germany's big towns.

Re: Apple Car Challenges: Sobering Thoughts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but in just under a decade or so, electric cars are going to have range parity with gasoline ones. Only if investment and breakthroughs continue. Moore's law worked out well because people kept buying computers constantly since they were useful even while much slower. When it comes to electric cars though, there is little incentive for consumers to buy them at the moment so there is a significant risk of investment…

Only if investment and breakthroughs continue. Investment and breakthroughs in lithium ion batteries were not and are not only driven by electric vehicles. Far, far from it, as a matter of fact.

What else is the major use case for high-power batteries?
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