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RemixOS for PC released

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Re: RemixOS for PC released

#81
Managed to get it too boot on my Acer laptop. Not impressed with it honestly. Mouse isn't really useable and the only thing that make it "desktop like" is the task bar at the bottom. The music application still opens full-screen with no close button or any window chrome at all. Sure the site says it has Google Play Store but there is no sign of it here.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#82

I have a little box for my TV running Android. The issue with all the apps is that 90% (looking mostly at games, I guess) of them more or less expect gestural input, and are either really difficult to play or just not fun with a mouse. I doubt that particular issue is as bad in productivity apps etc., but there's a lot more to running a mobile app on a big screen than just resizing a window. Does this have some magic…

I used to use Android on an old netbook --- a Toshiba AC100, ARM-based with 512MB of RAM. The netbook originally shipped with Gingerbread and was practically unusable, but after I upgraded it to Honeycomb it was a really rather comfortable thing to use. I had Debian running in a chroot on it, so I got a combination of the Android UI with a proper Linux environment underneath it. This meant that stuff like wifi and qu…

Seems that Android may be heading back towards Honeycomb, given that the 6.0.1 release put the buttons in the screen corners (back and home bottom left, switcher bottom right).

Never mind that 5.0 or something put in a notification shade that was more useful on larger screens.

The biggest problem with Android right now is perhaps the release cadence, and that Google sticks to it even if it means shipping half baked functionality.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#83
post #63

I have a little box for my TV running Android. The issue with all the apps is that 90% (looking mostly at games, I guess) of them more or less expect gestural input, and are either really difficult to play or just not fun with a mouse. I doubt that particular issue is as bad in productivity apps etc., but there's a lot more to running a mobile app on a big screen than just resizing a window. Does this have some magic…

I keep wishing somebody would make an airmouse with buttons configured to simulate common touch-gestures - like put a d-pad on it for swipe up/down/left/right, and a scrollwheel simulating pinch zooms. Google keeps trying to get vendors to support their half-forgotten TV oses GoogleTV/AndroidTV, but it seems like it would be simpler to just make a peripheral that emulates the common touch actions and use let Android…

Intel's Realsense perhaps?

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#84
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo if you can run existing Android apps in resizable windows it would be a huge win. There are many well made Android apps that would work just fine as their own windowed applications

some would definitely work pretty well. Several streaming services have native apps on both mobile & desktop. I think that their mobile apps could run pretty well on desktop. For many complex apps though (like anything dealing with text edition), the lack of hover & right clics handling would be a pain. Android supports 'hover' events (and since API 1 IIRC) but nobody implements them in custom widgets. Android suppor…

http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MotionEv...

BUTTON_SECONDARY is reported in the getButtonState() of the MotionEvent, but I'm not sure most apps ever check that. I would guess in a lot of cases, if there is only checking on pointer down and up, it will act like the left mouse button.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#85
Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least.

1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content."

2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions".

3. Also, you're not allowed to spread rumor, disturb social order, or undermine social stability.

There's other strange rules of conduct that just turned me off from the entire project. Besides, it doesn't see either of my wireless adapters and the desktop blanked out when it attempted to adjust my screen resolution:)

I'm still interested in getting completely off Windows 10, so I'll stick with Linux for now.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#86

I have a little box for my TV running Android. The issue with all the apps is that 90% (looking mostly at games, I guess) of them more or less expect gestural input, and are either really difficult to play or just not fun with a mouse. I doubt that particular issue is as bad in productivity apps etc., but there's a lot more to running a mobile app on a big screen than just resizing a window. Does this have some magic…

I used to use Android on an old netbook --- a Toshiba AC100, ARM-based with 512MB of RAM. The netbook originally shipped with Gingerbread and was practically unusable, but after I upgraded it to Honeycomb it was a really rather comfortable thing to use. I had Debian running in a chroot on it, so I got a combination of the Android UI with a proper Linux environment underneath it. This meant that stuff like wifi and qu…

I was also chrooting Debian on top of Android for some time.

I really like Linux, but desktop GUI software has become quite stagnant due to excessive framework fragmentation.

I have long thought that Android converging back with regular Linux is a very real possibility. It might be the case that we end up having Android as a standard desktop instead of Gnome or KDE.

I'd rather have the latter, as I don't think Android will easily get rid of Google stuff like GCM, but some competition will be good.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#87

Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least. 1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content." 2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions". 3.…

Fuck China.

-- posted from my RemixOS desktop

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#88
post #14
post #2

Awesome. It's much easier to make Android (with it's massive app ecosystem) a desktop OS than it is than to build an app ecosystem for traditional Linux desktops. Interestingly enough it doesn't look like there's an installer - they want you to run it from USB for now.

There is also project "shashlik" by the KDE folks which, if it works as advertised at some point, should make it possible to run Android apps natively in Linux. https://github.com/shashlik/shashlik

Neat. I've been using ARC with chrome for a couple of apps that i grabbed from my phone with adb. This looks like it'll eventually be pretty nice to avoid having to open chrome for them.

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#89

Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least. 1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content." 2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions". 3.…

What an amazing thing to put in a EULA. Are they somehow sponsored by China?

Re: RemixOS for PC released

#90

Just booted it. The EULA is frightening to say the least. 1. "You agree that you irrevocably waive any and all ownership, legal and moral rights to your user content." 2. You're also not allowed to oppose "the basic principles determined in the Constitution of the People's Republic of China", harm it's "national honor and interests", or undermine it's "national religious policy, promoting cults and superstitions". 3.…

If this is really true [1] and not an exaggeration, there is no way on Earth I will touch this or let anyone I care about touch it with a 100-foot pole.

Closed source? Waive legal rights? to my own content? Not criticize China?

Not in 100 million years. Glad I switched to 100% Ubuntu. Donated and anticipating 16.04 LTS in April.

It's one thing to get pressured into a gray area w/r/t freedoms in exchange for some perceived benefit, but to explicitly waive them and endanger myself to a foreign power? Who knows what China would do? No way.

How do these people even make a EULA with a straight face and expect people to drink it up? Even though Windows and OSX are closed-source, at least hackers have a grasp on what it's doing and you're not instantly giving up rights and ownership when you turn it on.

This crosses my line in the sand.

[1] I've been trying to find the EULA online somewhere, but can't so far. Any leads? I'm afraid to install this and look at the EULA.

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