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Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

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Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think people would do to him? I'm not sure I understand the 'danger' you seem to perceive.

He's presumably a computer geek sitting on a fortune that can be stolen and transferred without FinCEN knowing or able to do crap. I think that's enough reason to keep his identity secret.

What's FinCEN? Is that the Australian equivalent of the USA IRS?

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

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Satoshi is very probably Nick Szabo...

Does anyone have source code of Nick's from around the time period of what Satoshi submitted? Satoshi's style is so weird that Nick's should be the same unless the style was itself an obfuscation.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

#83
post #54

If someone wants to prove they are Satoshi Nakamoto all they have to do is sign a message with the private keys from the genesis block. Until then it's a little pointless to guess.

That's assuming they still have it. Perhaps the reason none of the bitcoin created in the genesis block has ever moved is because Satoshi thought there would be some value in having it be static and never expected bitcoin to have actual value. They may have deleted that key.

It's going to be really funny if we find out he, too, tossed a HD full of Bitcoins in the trash thinking it was nothing. ;)

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

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So far there have been multiple Satoshi Nakamoto reveals which, of course, never panned out. To their credit Wired is hedging their bets, saying Wright could be a determined hoaxer and even providing some countervailing evidence to their own theory. Good journalism, that. Having said that, I looked over the article and this seems to be the most convincing Satoshi Nakamoto theory thus far. There's no need to jump to a…

I think a very small amount of stylometric analysis would cast a lot of doubt on this theory. Satoshi's grammar is always perfect. His sentences are tight. He's clear and to the point. Wright rambles; his grammar is terrible; he seems to have no idea what a comma is for. Scanning his blog for a minute, he comes across as the kind of slightly dotty kook who would try to convince people he's Satoshi with this kind of "…

Satoshi is two people - Wright and Kleiman. Kleiman was responsible for the public Satoshi writing, and he doesn't have any of his own writing samples online that aren't co-authored to make a stylometric comparison against.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

#85
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's presumably a computer geek sitting on a fortune that can be stolen and transferred without FinCEN knowing or able to do crap. I think that's enough reason to keep his identity secret.

What's FinCEN? Is that the Australian equivalent of the USA IRS?

It's a U.S. organization that goes after financial crime world-wide. I just gave it as an example. Point being, many types of money moving require careful laundering to prevent traces for financial or other prosecution. It's why most crooks focus on trying to steal straight cash if they're here in U.S.. A guy with an easily-moved, unregulated, semi-anonymous stash of millions is a much easier target and the government might not be able to help him. So, more risk than usual and varies depending on his location.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

#86
post #42

Apparently Gizmodo has been investigating this for even longer (!) and has a lot of other evidence for Wright=Satoshi too: http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-frie...

That's mostly evidence for my theory: he's an egomaniac trying to sell a story. Almost all of this goes back to him or the leaker as a matter of faith. It all appears way after Bitcoin appears. Everything about how he presents himself comes off as playing to a mystique to draw people in. I'd buy the leaks if the hacker posted a message as Satoshi using stolen credential and linked to this article. Meanwhile, the "hac…

> he's an egomaniac trying to sell a story

Awesome guerrilla marketing.

Journalists want the scoop of the century - outing the real Satoshi. By back filling history, they gave exactly what they wanted, and they took it hook, line and sinker.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

#87
post #69

Also Gizmodo was separately leaked to, it seems, has a bunch of screenshots http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-frie... if it's a hoax, seems like an awfully long and meticulous one. [edit - Dang this fell off front page fast! Thought this one was going to be almost Steve Jobs in terms of having a life of its own]

It's being flagged down by the 'oh no they're going to kill satoshi' crowd; based on pts and time it should be the #1 post atm.

really? as if not having it on the front page of HN will totally keep the lid on it. plus the guy either outed himself or is pulling a massive hoax. either way he had time to plan for it. meanwhile the death of the Williams-Sonoma founder on 12/5 is basking on front page with 1/10 number of points. karma conspiracy HN is the worst form of HN but how odd.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

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this twitter account just got deleted https://twitter.com/dr_craig_wright

I followed him for his work on Cloudcroft, until an hour ago both of his blogs and Google+ account were active. Completely out now :( http://gse-compliance.blogspot.com/ http://security-doctor.blogspot.com/ https://plus.google.com/117910648569393591305/posts

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

#89
post #41

I wish people would respect satoshi's wish of anonymity. Having probably the only concentration of wealth over $100M not guarded by a full security detail, it could very well lead to not only his own harm, but perhaps his family members being kidnapped, etc. That is not even to mention the bilderberg/rothschild/etc. type of people that probably aren't big fans.

There are something like 5,000 families in the US worth more than $100M, the majority don't have private security, don't worry about kidnappings, and don't take any real actions to protect themselves from the Bilderbergs (?)

And Wright lives in London according to that Vegas video. Even more billionaires live there without much worries about kidnapping, and you'd think the Russians there would be a testcase.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Is Probably This Unknown Australian Genius?

#90
post #54

If someone wants to prove they are Satoshi Nakamoto all they have to do is sign a message with the private keys from the genesis block. Until then it's a little pointless to guess.

That's assuming they still have it. Perhaps the reason none of the bitcoin created in the genesis block has ever moved is because Satoshi thought there would be some value in having it be static and never expected bitcoin to have actual value. They may have deleted that key.

That's a possibility, but if you read some of the early emails, Satoshi was at least theorizing the value of bitcoin if it was used as the world's only currency (I think to make sure there were enough units - which I believe are 54 bits, the mantissa of a 64 bit double). The recorded conversations seem to indicate that he knew exactly how much a more ideal form of money could be worth.

Then again, Satoshi might own a lot of btc that isn't wrapped up in the genesis blocks and he could have plenty of money to wait until bitcoin either dies or matures to the point where he doesn't have to expose himself as much by moving them.

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