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Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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Can M wade through phone support menus and cancel Comcast subscriptions? I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition. Better, once we equip them with those sound-board UIs that play pre-recorded answers in native English-speaking voices (can't find the link), English can become a transmission protocol that few people d…

M can indeed cancel Comcast accounts. Use this knowledge wisely...

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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post #5

Facebook's strategy here is to build an AI brand before they have the actual technology, which could make a lot of sense. At the same time the interactions between M's team and its users will provide meaningful data to train the AI on.

I've never heard vaporware characterized as something that "could make a lot of sense"; how could it? Plus I'm doubtful whether the data would be very meaningful. A bunch of people adversarially trying to figure out whether the AI is real is not representative or generally useful data.

I think the data would be very useful considering a vast majority of users won't be using it in this way, also consider that people who query for things will learn the limitations of the system providing the information and adapt their queries accordingly. If you have a system capable of providing meaningful results to highly complex queries then you can start bridging the gap between how people interact with machines vs how they interact with humans.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

#83
post #5

Facebook's strategy here is to build an AI brand before they have the actual technology, which could make a lot of sense. At the same time the interactions between M's team and its users will provide meaningful data to train the AI on.

I've never heard vaporware characterized as something that "could make a lot of sense"; how could it? Plus I'm doubtful whether the data would be very meaningful. A bunch of people adversarially trying to figure out whether the AI is real is not representative or generally useful data.

"Do things that don't scale"?

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't trained to read natural language, and then respond with some programmatic action filtered into natural language: Bot reads "What's the temperature like near me?" Person calls "$get user-local-temperature" API responds "{temperature:{f:77},{c:99}}" Human writes "It's 77 degrees outside!" Training set now contains that relationship between that question, that API call, that response, and that natural langu…

The translation of unrestricted human language into a restricted, "logical" language which could be understood mechanically, is another long-standing problem - going back as far as Liebniz - which is unlikely to be solved by a few gigabytes of chat logs.

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Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They weren't trained to read natural language, and then respond with some programmatic action filtered into natural language: Bot reads "What's the temperature like near me?" Person calls "$get user-local-temperature" API responds "{temperature:{f:77},{c:99}}" Human writes "It's 77 degrees outside!" Training set now contains that relationship between that question, that API call, that response, and that natural langu…

The translation of unrestricted human language into a restricted, "logical" language which could be understood mechanically, is another long-standing problem - going back as far as Liebniz - which is unlikely to be solved by a few gigabytes of chat logs.

This is not a problem of structural semantics, each phrase is itself a semantic atom -- think Zork.

It doesn't need to see "What|WP 's|VBZ it|PRP like|IN outside|IN ?|."

Just "What's it like outside?", and know that it will always respond to that with the same call.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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post #5

Facebook's strategy here is to build an AI brand before they have the actual technology, which could make a lot of sense. At the same time the interactions between M's team and its users will provide meaningful data to train the AI on.

I've never heard vaporware characterized as something that "could make a lot of sense"; how could it? Plus I'm doubtful whether the data would be very meaningful. A bunch of people adversarially trying to figure out whether the AI is real is not representative or generally useful data.

> I've never heard vaporware characterized as something that "could make a lot of sense"; how could it?

but it isn't vaporware. It very much exist and works only it is possibly actively misleading about how it works.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

#88
post #21

"Can you solve this CAPTCHA for me?" (provided the CAPTCHA is sufficiently OCR-resistant)

If you want to avoid giving information about whether you are an AI or human, you simply respond "No." Besides, the CAPTCHA's that are sufficiently hard to solve for computers are already hard for humans as well.

> Can you tag for me all photos in my album that contain a kitten, but not a dog, with "kitten", and those that contain a kitten and a dog, with "petsThat should keep it busy.

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

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post #17
post #7

I wonder how many years it will be before a real AI can compete with Facebook's AI? I guess by the time that's possible Facebook's pretend AI will already have cornered the market. The public will only be able to see that you were the late entrant and that while your AI is faster it's occasionally incorrect in peculiar ways... This seems like a fairly solid plan by Facebook to crown themselves the winners of a race t…

Pretending you have a working technology when you don't has been a recent theme in the startup world.

Or compare in literature, to Victor Pelevin's (somewhat dystopian) novel Omon Ra's "highly complex automated systems"...

Re: Facebook M – The Anti-Turing Test

#90

Can M wade through phone support menus and cancel Comcast subscriptions? I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition. Better, once we equip them with those sound-board UIs that play pre-recorded answers in native English-speaking voices (can't find the link), English can become a transmission protocol that few people d…

> I look forward to a darkly-humorous future in which we pit poorly-paid third-world citizens against each other in wars of call center attrition.

This sounds like a 10 page side story in a Neil Stephenson Book. I love it.

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