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Re: Vitamin C kills tumor cells with hard-to-treat mutation in mice

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Post by liberale » Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 6:18 AM UTC

majkinetor wrote: post #70

liberale wrote: post #63

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Toxicity of vit-c is very low. Death by vit-c overdose is un-heard of. Intaking enough vit-c to cause death, could be due to sheer weight of substance intaken rather than bio-chemical function of vit-c. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C#Overdose Also studies conducted on animals (especially primates) that cannot synthesize vit-c on their own, show that they intake about upto 80x the RDA value of vitamin-c. So,…

Correcrt. Primates take vit. C in grams naturally for example.

Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c?

Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise?

Re: Vitamin C kills tumor cells with hard-to-treat mutation in mice

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Post by majkinetor » Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 7:20 PM UTC

liberale wrote: post #81

majkinetor wrote: post #70

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Correcrt. Primates take vit. C in grams naturally for example.

Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c? Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise?

> Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements?

There isn't any that I am aware of except bowel tolerance method. IMO, timing during healthy state is relaxed - twice per day is probably enough for most people; during stress however individual dose shouldn't be higher but should be taken more frequently (until bowel starts to complain, which means C is not absorbed any more and passes to colon where it causes diarrhea trough osmosis). What is remarkable here is the difference between bowel tolerance in healthy (low) and disease (high) state which suggests that vitamin C absorption increases.

See my answer here: http://www.paleohacks.com/vitamins/vitamin-c-supplementation...

> Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c?

I take pure synthetic AA with sodium bicarbonate half of the time (3-5g x2). I don't have experience with liposomal vit-c but I am sure it is way better then regular C, altho far more expensive.

> Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise?

I don't have one at hand now. Some people think it prevents adaptation during exercise and don't take it. I personaly think it reduces stress so it simply gives you an option to work more. Since exercise can actually reduce your immune system if you overdo it or have concurrent stressor, AA intake will certainly be more beneficial on the long run then any supposed adaptation shortcomings.

Re: Vitamin C kills tumor cells with hard-to-treat mutation in mice

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Post by liberale » Thu, Nov 12, 2015, 7:46 PM UTC

majkinetor wrote: post #82

liberale wrote: post #81

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Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? Also what form of supplement & which brand did you intake? Liposomal vit-c? Do you also have any comprehensive resources that explains if vit-c supplements can affect recovery from lifting weights or general exercise?

> Do you have any comprehensive resource on timing Vit-C supplements? There isn't any that I am aware of except bowel tolerance method. IMO, timing during healthy state is relaxed - twice per day is probably enough for most people; during stress however individual dose shouldn't be higher but should be taken more frequently (until bowel starts to complain, which means C is not absorbed any more and passes to colon wh…

Awesome, thanks a lot.

Re: Vitamin C kills tumor cells with hard-to-treat mutation in mice

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Post by majkinetor » Fri, Nov 13, 2015, 4:10 PM UTC

gabemart wrote: post #78

majkinetor wrote: post #69

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Yes , metabolism of vit C changes during desease which is easily checked on your own with bowel tollerance method. The claim it is not supported by mainstream medicine is nonsence. Like I said its not investigated. Only small doses are.

How could it possibly be supported if you admit it has not been investigated?

What I ment is that it is nonsence as it was never tested. You cant support or not support anything without proper reproduction which was never done.