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Interview Humiliation

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Re: Interview Humiliation

#81

All the usual cliches apply- you wouldn't want to work for them anyway, etc etc (Seriously though, a suit?!)

I've worn a suit to most of my interviews, including that for my current position.

Edited to add: I am surprised at "patent leather shoes" - for daytime business attire that's neither common nor traditional (which isn't necessarily a problem, but is certainly bolder). It's also possible he didn't actually mean "patent leather".

Re: Interview Humiliation

#82

Almost everyone on this site seems to have gone through similar interview experiences one time or the other. Our profession can get rid of this malady only with collective effort, as the author suggests: Lastly, this story fills me with an overwhelming desire to never continue the cycle of abuse. I strive every interview to try to respectfully work with the candidate, and never humiliate them. I want every person I i…

When I interview, part of my job is assessing the likely effectiveness of the person I'm interviewing.

Part of my job is making a positive impression on the person, so they want to work with me (more than they already did, perhaps), so the amazing candidate will choose us over their other opportunities, and the rest will at least say good things about us.

Re: Interview Humiliation

#83

He should have walked out the interview the very moment they made the "Can't you afford a real machine?" comment. Even if you pass the interview, do you really want to work for/with these assholes?

While it's not a good sign in any event, depending on how it was delivered it's probably not enough to motivate burning bridges on its own.

Re: Interview Humiliation

#85

Almost everyone on this site seems to have gone through similar interview experiences one time or the other. Our profession can get rid of this malady only with collective effort, as the author suggests: Lastly, this story fills me with an overwhelming desire to never continue the cycle of abuse. I strive every interview to try to respectfully work with the candidate, and never humiliate them. I want every person I i…

True. While tech interviews cannot be "fixed" by the very nature of it, but one can always extend basic courtesy and decency to candidates.

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#86
These guys sound like movie villains. They may be programmers by trade but they belong to no profession.

I have a very difficult time imagining that, as the top comment says, "almost everyone on this site seems to have gone through similar interview experiences." During the dozen or so interviews I've personally done, I've seen interviewers arrive late and unprepared or unqualified to conduct the interview occasionally but I've never been treated discourteously.

Maybe the job market in 2003 was such that some people felt like they could get away with more in the name of "evaluation?" No clue, but seriously - planned evaluation or not I'd have certainly pardoned myself from the interview prior to the group lunch. Sticking it out to be avoid burning bridges only makes sense if you are being treated with the modicum of respect a human being deserves. Some bridges deserve to burn.

Edit: not about a story that occurred in 2003, so feel free to disregard my idle speculation about the state of the job market.

Re: Interview Humiliation

#87
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This sounds highly improbable, especially the "Oh, wow, Linux, what is this, 2003? I'd hoped I'd never have to see....." comment, I honestly can't believe there are any developers would make such a comment. The OP should name the company if this interview was this terrible.

I don't want to say. Its been almost four years since then. A friend started working there for a different team, and he intimated the team I'd interviewed for was strongly anti-TDD, and very pro-Python. Even he laughed at me for not using a Mac. Recently they expanded too much and laid off 3/4 their development staff including my friend. In all, it sounds like it wasn't a great place. But I don't want to publicly cal…

If you tell HN how they looked and the company name, we can go on a witch-hunt :p.

But in all seriousness, sorry you had to go through something that terrible. Like someone mentioned already in this thread, you should have left the place when you heard the linux comment. Come to think of it, I'm happy for you for not getting stuck in an obviously poisonous environment.

Re: Interview Humiliation

#88
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This is such comic book villainy I just don't believe it happened as described. I wonder how the other side would describe it.

No, I see this everywhere. There's a large segment of the software industry that believes their way is right, and everything else is wrong. The phone you use, the computer you use, etc. Recently I had someone tell me that if you're still writing apps that serve HTML, you're "doing it wrong" because everything should be an AJAX backend with JavaScript. Is that the way apps are going? Certainly. But is that the way to…

> Recently I had someone tell me that if you're still writing apps that serve HTML, you're "doing it wrong" because everything should be an AJAX backend with JavaScript. Is that the way apps are going? Certainly. But is that the way to do everything? No.

Excuse me, but what are the advantages of not serving HTML directly? I honestly find that way more convenient (possibility to give links for example).

Re: Interview Humiliation

#90
post #37

This presentation is bullshit. You have no evidence, nothing valuable to show, just spurious subjective opinions. You've put up a straw man and now are trying to knock it down assuming we are idiots. I've seen enough. Whoever said this is a dev I'd refuse to ever put into an interview again. Hell, I'd be reluctant to put this dev into any meetings requiring communication skills.

I had a slightly different takeaway: who asks a candidate to perform a slideshow presentation at an interview?

I've heard of Pixar requesting presentations for plain old development positions.
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