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Looking like they sold their customer data over to fly maids or whoever was behind them. Surprised they were able to actually transfer the CC info. When I was at a company that was selling off assets, the most we could do was give them customer email addresses. I have serious doubts about the legality of this.
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So hold on... If we can work out how they encoded those activation URLs, or someone intercepts the email then they can get full access to anyone's account? I have zero sympathy for HomeJoy. They failed, which is something I can gave sympathy for. But they sold all their customer's private data without notifying them of this fact, and caused major security concerns in the process!
We don't actually know what happened here. It could have been just one founder doing something shady; it could have been a hack; it could be something we can't imagine yet. Let's not break out the pitchforks until we know who to point them at.
Digging into trademarks, incorporations and S-1's is a weird little obsession of mine.. That said, my initial findings are that Flymaids is directly related to Homejoy. Under Privacy link of Flymaids it states "In the European Union, we are Fly Maids Europe Limited, a company incorporated in England and Wales (registration number 8883585) with its registered office address at 14 Whittonditch Road, Ramsbury, Marlborou…
What's the big deal? Homejoy is just hacking startup downfunding... (/s) I'd like to see some kind of stronger YC influence on ethics in the companies they fund. I realize that YC doesn't have any direct control over the companies, but it could be as simple as including good ethics in the traits they look for in startup founders. A while back I started compiling a list of YC companies that spammed or otherwise behave…
YC makes it very clear they will disavow any company or founder that acts unethically. YC is strict about very few things, but this was made clear in no uncertain terms (especially by Jessica). When things go bad, YC always gets involved – even if you don't read about it online. Don't blame YC just yet. We don't know what happened here. Maybe Homejoy went into debt, had their assets seized, and lost control (like wit…
Or, might be that our definitions of unethical don't match up 100%. I consider spam to be unethical, maybe you just mean more serious offenses.
Looking like they sold their customer data over to fly maids or whoever was behind them. Surprised they were able to actually transfer the CC info. When I was at a company that was selling off assets, the most we could do was give them customer email addresses. I have serious doubts about the legality of this.
This appears to be very plausible. Googling "Fly Maids, Inc" shows their terms and privacy pages w/last modified dates of 2013 and 2014 respectively. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Fly+Maids,+Inc%22
The domain's WHOIS info lists:
Creation Date: 2015-10-08T04:34:58Z
Digging into trademarks, incorporations and S-1's is a weird little obsession of mine.. That said, my initial findings are that Flymaids is directly related to Homejoy. Under Privacy link of Flymaids it states "In the European Union, we are Fly Maids Europe Limited, a company incorporated in England and Wales (registration number 8883585) with its registered office address at 14 Whittonditch Road, Ramsbury, Marlborou…
As I mentioned in another post, they don't seem to be actually registered in Deleware and there are typos related to find/replace (support@flymaids.com.com) so I'm not sure we can discount the chance someone just cut/pasted that from the original Homejoy privacy page. Homejoy's privacy page doesn't load and the wayback machine was blocked via robots.txt so we have no good way of checking that I can think of. Also, ni…
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As mentioned in Flymaids privacy policy, their "head office" in Delaware is actually offices to incorporate.com; a registered agent for out of state companies.
Also, a DBA search in Delaware returns nothing: http://www.courts.delaware.gov/tradenames/JICKioskSearch.asp...
as someone mentioned in the blog comment, Fly Maids site is a complete copy (with redesigned homepage) of another cleaning service http://www.homeaglow.com/ @johnsalzarulo out of curiosity, try if your login works on homeaglow.com f.e.: both logos are served from the same S3 bucket: https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/fly_maids.png https://s3q1w2e3.s3.amazonaws.com/brands/logos/homeaglow.png
One of the first employees of Homejoy was Daniel Hung https://twitter.com/danhung
Anyone want to tweet him and ask? :-)