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Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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I'm less concerned about the hacker, and more concerned that the Director of the CIA not only has an aol.com email account but also uses that account to transmit sensitive information. I'm not just saying this to be a jerk - this should be grounds for immediate termination of his employment. This is clearly a guy who shows poor judgement with respect to the management of sensitive material. Also, from the article: "[…

The only sensitive information listed in this article is his application for security clearance. While that may contain a lot of personal information, that file would have been compiled and sent before he had access to classified documents, and before he had a government email address. I am guessing this kid wiggled his way into a 10+ year old AOL account containing data that was never deleted. We all probably have e…

>The only sensitive information listed in this article is his application for security clearance. While that may contain a lot of personal information, that file would have been compiled and sent before he had access to classified documents, and before he had a government email address.

CNN is reporting he posted his SSN on Twitter.

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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But according to the government, you don't have expectation of privacy for any personal data stored in the "cloud"

That may be true, but it doesn't help. Impersonating another person could plausibly be construed as accessing a system without permission -- a federal offense, I believe. Couple that with things that likely include classified information, if the director included that kind of thing, and anyone who accesses his account could be facing a very aggressive prosecution.

You can't have it both ways if you are the government... it should be the same for everyone.

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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The US Federal system was designed to have checks and balances provided by oversight by different branches of government. Unfortunately today we have people in these branches of government who either won't do their duty because they are terrible at their jobs or because there is a silent quid-pro-quo where these sorts of people look the other way for each other.

While you're absolutely right in your diagnosis of the problem in the US, I doubt these problems are specific to the US government. I'm a Brit, and there are enough stories of technical incompetence here to make me assume it's a global problem. I suspect even non-democracies have the same issue. Who's going to tell Kim Jong-un he needs to rotate passwords?

Thanks for your thoughtful response, not sure what I said that rated downvoting on my comment but apparently members of the CIA and Congressional oversight committee are members of hn ;)

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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Why do they keep referring to this guy as a "stoner"? What he smokes doesn't seem to be at all related to what he's done.

It still has stoner in the URL. I was wondering the same thing. This is American journalism we are talking about, there are no standards anymore.

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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All this time I had assumed when Brennan called for dangerous things like encryption back doors he must understand the negative impacts would be but just didn't care as long as it helped the CIA. Now I'm thinking he actually doesn't know what he's talking about at all which is somehow even worse. An AOL email account with confidential files in it? Unbelievable.

There was nothing in the story saying confidential files were stored in his AOL account. Also nothing about when the account was last used. There was a time when we all had noisy modems and AOL accounts.

I think these qualify. You are free to disagree.

CIA Director John Brennan’s private account held sensitive files — including his 47-page application for top-secret security clearance — until he recently learned that it had been infiltrated, the hacker told The Post. Other emails stored in Brennan’s non-government account contained the Social Security numbers and personal information of more than a dozen top American intelligence officials

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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There was nothing in the story saying confidential files were stored in his AOL account. Also nothing about when the account was last used. There was a time when we all had noisy modems and AOL accounts.

I think these qualify. You are free to disagree. CIA Director John Brennan’s private account held sensitive files — including his 47-page application for top-secret security clearance — until he recently learned that it had been infiltrated, the hacker told The Post. Other emails stored in Brennan’s non-government account contained the Social Security numbers and personal information of more than a dozen top American…

Not quite. Confidential is a technical term in the military/IC world. It's a classification, just like secret or top secret. I read somewhere that a lot of the Wikileaks cables were supposedly stuff marked confidential.

Storing confidential material in an AOL account would be a crime, just like giving the same material to Wikileaks.

Brennan's PII, job history, etc. is certainly valuable information, but clearance application paperwork itself is unclassified.

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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Agreed. Also this in the post>The hacker contacted The Post last week to brag about his exploits, which include posting some of the stolen documents and a portion of Brennan’s contact list on Twitter. Like seriously, it is like begging to be apprehended.

Once you've hacked the CIA it's probably easier to go public, so that you know the CIA probably won't just kill you.

Hacked the CIA, you say? http://xkcd.com/932/

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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Once you've hacked the CIA it's probably easier to go public, so that you know the CIA probably won't just kill you.

But don't underestimate the power of teenage male bravado.

I prefer Buffy's line: "acute testosterone poisoning."

Re: Teen says he hacked CIA director's AOL account

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I think these qualify. You are free to disagree. CIA Director John Brennan’s private account held sensitive files — including his 47-page application for top-secret security clearance — until he recently learned that it had been infiltrated, the hacker told The Post. Other emails stored in Brennan’s non-government account contained the Social Security numbers and personal information of more than a dozen top American…

Not quite. Confidential is a technical term in the military/IC world. It's a classification, just like secret or top secret. I read somewhere that a lot of the Wikileaks cables were supposedly stuff marked confidential. Storing confidential material in an AOL account would be a crime, just like giving the same material to Wikileaks. Brennan's PII, job history, etc. is certainly valuable information, but clearance app…

Ok then my mistake - there's nothing in the article that says they were files classified as confidential.
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