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Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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asuffield wrote: post #46
baby wrote: post #40

> Facebook’s account security is apparently based on its users knowing what every one of of its friends looks like (do you?) … Well yeah. You're supposed to be able to recognise your friends in that test if it's really your account. I don't see what is the problem? I've passed these tests several time, you are presented with 6 different pictures for each friend (so it's hard to fail) and you can re-pass the test seve…

It works well for the way a lot of people use facebook, and very poorly for the way some people use facebook. There's a baked in assumption that you only "friend" people who you can identify from their photos. (This one isn't a fake account, it's a "professional" account, so she's "friends" with a lot of people that she only emails for work purposes and has never met) For a hilarious example of how this can fail, a g…

> and very poorly for the way some people use facebook

It just doesn't seem very clever to me to rant about using facebook in a way it was not intended to be used.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by scrollaway »

baby wrote: post #81
asuffield wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works well for the way a lot of people use facebook, and very poorly for the way some people use facebook. There's a baked in assumption that you only "friend" people who you can identify from their photos. (This one isn't a fake account, it's a "professional" account, so she's "friends" with a lot of people that she only emails for work purposes and has never met) For a hilarious example of how this can fail, a g…

> and very poorly for the way some people use facebook It just doesn't seem very clever to me to rant about using facebook in a way it was not intended to be used.

It's never clever to blame the user for not using the product the way it's intended to. UX101.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by scrollaway »

parennoob wrote: post #54
asuffield wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works well for the way a lot of people use facebook, and very poorly for the way some people use facebook. There's a baked in assumption that you only "friend" people who you can identify from their photos. (This one isn't a fake account, it's a "professional" account, so she's "friends" with a lot of people that she only emails for work purposes and has never met) For a hilarious example of how this can fail, a g…

> This one isn't a fake account, it's a "professional" account, so she's "friends" with a lot of people that she only emails for work purposes and has never met In fairness, I don't think this is a model that Facebook can easily cater to, given that the express purpose of their site is to map relationships between groups of people what know each other in real life, and to use that information to show them ads. Not sa…

> In fairness, I don't think this is a model that Facebook can easily cater to

It's not a model they're asked to cater to, it's a model they break with a poorly-thought-out verification mechanism.

It's NOT ABSURD to be friends with people whose face you don't know. And I know a lot of people with HUNDREDS if not thousands of friends on facebook, most whose names they certainly do not remember.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by baby »

scrollaway wrote: post #83
baby wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and very poorly for the way some people use facebook It just doesn't seem very clever to me to rant about using facebook in a way it was not intended to be used.

It's never clever to blame the user for not using the product the way it's intended to. UX101.

they're not blaming her, they even asked her if she wanted some help.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by baby »

scrollaway wrote: post #84
parennoob wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This one isn't a fake account, it's a "professional" account, so she's "friends" with a lot of people that she only emails for work purposes and has never met In fairness, I don't think this is a model that Facebook can easily cater to, given that the express purpose of their site is to map relationships between groups of people what know each other in real life, and to use that information to show them ads. Not sa…

> In fairness, I don't think this is a model that Facebook can easily cater to It's not a model they're asked to cater to , it's a model they break with a poorly-thought-out verification mechanism. It's NOT ABSURD to be friends with people whose face you don't know. And I know a lot of people with HUNDREDS if not thousands of friends on facebook, most whose names they certainly do not remember.

Seems completely absurd to me. You are supposed to know what your friends look like (aren't they called friends?)

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by mcphage »

baby wrote: post #86
scrollaway wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In fairness, I don't think this is a model that Facebook can easily cater to It's not a model they're asked to cater to , it's a model they break with a poorly-thought-out verification mechanism. It's NOT ABSURD to be friends with people whose face you don't know. And I know a lot of people with HUNDREDS if not thousands of friends on facebook, most whose names they certainly do not remember.

Seems completely absurd to me. You are supposed to know what your friends look like (aren't they called friends?)

There's friends, and there's "Facebook friends". In reality people have thousands of different relations between people, and nuances to those relationships. Facebook has two-you're either "Friends", or "not Friends". Needless to say, this is a tremendously leaky abstraction. Thus, don't assume that because two people are Facebook friends, that their relationship in any way resemble friendship.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by DanBC »

morganvachon wrote: post #62
hugh4 wrote: post #32

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I tried reading the entire article, I really did. But it kept jumping around and losing focus from one thing to another that she was upset about. Eventually I figured out the answer to the question I came here for. It turns out that the reason the author is sitting at home crying on a Saturday night is because he/she/it is an emotionally unstable wreck who can't deal with life's minor inconveniences and enjoys creati…

Facebook's mistreatment of LGBT folks is a real, documented thing that has existed for many years, and one of their pain points for that group is forcing a person to provide government ID and a "real name", which can then be used to ban the account for "misrepresenting" their sexual orientation as well as expose them to harassment from hate groups. The author is an outspoken advocate for LGBT rights, so I can see whe…

See also Facebook's weird standards around photos of women breast feeding their babies (strictly banned for years) and terrorists beheading captured people (fine by Facebook).

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by toomuchtodo »

ikeboy wrote: post #65
scrollaway wrote: post #55

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That's pretty shitty but how does it relate?

Part of the article was railing against Facebook for censorship.

A government or private company censors, private individuals libel and slander (in this example).

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by [deleted] »

ikeboy wrote: post #21

She's hardly the model of anti censorship: In July 2008, Blue sought restraining orders against online critics David Burch (aka Ben Burch) and Nina Alter to prohibit them from e-mailing her, editing her Wikipedia page, or writing unkindly about her online. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Blue

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