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Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

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Great stuff. What's the setup for file permissions? Can I have multiple people writing to the same bucket? Can I restrict deletion & write rules?

Brian from Backblaze here. It's pretty simple for now. You can have as many people reading and writing to the same bucket, but they would all need to share the same credentials. Buckets are either "allPublic" or "allPrivate" (and you can flip them back and forth at any time between those two settings). But that's it at this point.

We're actively looking for feedback in this area, so as developers ask us for something like Amazon's IAM (AWS Identity and Access Management) we'll be filling that functionality out. Hopefully without adding too much complexity to the simple model we have now.

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

#83

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> It is surprising that they didn't make it compatible with the S3 API .... The lack of scalable front-end load balancing is shown by the fact that they require users to first make an API call to get an upload URL And... you answered your own question. :-) We reduce our operating costs by not having as many load balancers in the datacenter and pushing off the responsibility to the API. It all comes from our tradition…

I, for one, prefer the directness of not having to go through a front-end proxy. It probably eliminates some failure modes. I think that, instead of Backblaze providing an S3-compatible API, someone should do an open-source S3-compatible front-end for B2, that any interested user can run on a cheap VPS.

If someone writes a jclouds provider for B2, you can then use https://github.com/andrewgaul/s3proxy to interface with it

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

#84
post #72

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> It is surprising that they didn't make it compatible with the S3 API .... The lack of scalable front-end load balancing is shown by the fact that they require users to first make an API call to get an upload URL And... you answered your own question. :-) We reduce our operating costs by not having as many load balancers in the datacenter and pushing off the responsibility to the API. It all comes from our tradition…

S3 compatible API is the only reason preventing us from migrating to your cheaper option right now.

Wouldn't be very hard to make your own proxy.

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

#85
Reading the API, it seems that I need to precalculate a SHA-1 before uploading? This makes it impossible to stream data to b2 from another source, I'll need to store it first then send to b2.

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

#86

> Downloads are just $0.05/GB Can anyone compare that to other similar providers? While the storage is cheap, it seems more useful for cold storage.

http://gaul.org/object-store-comparison/ mentioned by @gaul a little bit ago has outbound pricing listed for a bunch of providers

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

#87

> Downloads are just $0.05/GB Can anyone compare that to other similar providers? While the storage is cheap, it seems more useful for cold storage.

There is a chart here: https://www.backblaze.com/b2/cloud-storage-providers.html

Backblaze is the same cost or cheaper as the cheapest tier in several other popular services like Amazon S3 and Microsoft Azure. We don't know of anybody with a lower cost of downloads.

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

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Not server, desktop, Hence my annoyance you don't have a client for it. I can understand your biz reasons for not having one though.

Now with B2 we immediately support Linux and provide a client for it out of the box (written in python). Granted, it is only a command line interface so give us a little time to polish it up and add some features.

Another Linux user here who would love to use a command line Python tool to backup my data to Backblaze: with Python I can see how my stuff is encrypted. That's the only reason I'm not using Backblaze right now: closed source client.

My only interest in B2 is backing up for a lower cost than the ridiculousness of S3: at $0.022/GB, I might as well buy a 3TB hard drive myself, put it at a friend's and push my data there. Every month. At the end of the year, I'd have 36TB in hard drive capacity if I bought drives instead of paying for 3TB of S3 storage.

(All numbers are estimates and "roughly"s. Also I don't have external backups now because I'm too lazy to write the software myself, so there is something to say for paying instead of not having it.)

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

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"No one data center serves two availability zones" : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/16/aws_data_centre_arch...

Is there a reason you're focused on AWS topics and your account is only ~2 days old? https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=DinkyG https://archive.is/fRf8i

Given that they created the account to comment in the DynamoDB thread, I'd guess they're a DynamoDB developer, but that doesn't invalidate anything they've said in this thread -- they even provided a 3rd party source.

Re: Backblaze B2 Cloud Storage

#90

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Is there a reason you're focused on AWS topics and your account is only ~2 days old? https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=DinkyG https://archive.is/fRf8i

Given that they created the account to comment in the DynamoDB thread, I'd guess they're a DynamoDB developer, but that doesn't invalidate anything they've said in this thread -- they even provided a 3rd party source.

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