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#81
The game doesn't "work" on microsoft edge but the brower doesnt recognize the Stanford links[0] , it is not possible to copy them by right clicking. Going directly to the page by copy/pasting the url doesn't even load the website. IE doesn't seem to understand the url as well.

The only brower I've tried that manages to get a page is firefox[1]

[0]http://www.stanford.edu/%%30%30

[1]http://i.imgur.com/nEDgBrq.png

Re: Show HN: %%30%30: A Game

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Thank you. People calling web-render wrappers "native applications" must not realize how great it is when applications are mere coördinators on top of an integrated platform full of services designed to improve user productivity. I guess if that demographic did, there would be less "unix philosophy" cultism, as the efficacy of the unix shell is merely on par with that provided by other relatively coherent software to…

> Attributes like a11y, embeddability, composability, and effective resource sharing tend to simply fall out of well-designed platforms. The web has an effective answer for none of these desirable concerns. ...what? The web is better than most native platforms in these. The web is accessible. It has many features for screen readers and such, but more importantly, it is inherently flexible and allows content's form to…

Alas, all the benefits you list are just possibilities, not the reality. "separation of content from style" was a big thing back when csszengarden.com was making rounds, but that all is long forgotten in the name of angularreactnodecrap. Accessibility? Give me a break, how many web sites do even work without JS enabled? I am not sure about Android, but iOS has a great accessibility support.

Re: Show HN: %%30%30: A Game

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> Attributes like a11y, embeddability, composability, and effective resource sharing tend to simply fall out of well-designed platforms. The web has an effective answer for none of these desirable concerns. ...what? The web is better than most native platforms in these. The web is accessible. It has many features for screen readers and such, but more importantly, it is inherently flexible and allows content's form to…

Alas, all the benefits you list are just possibilities, not the reality. "separation of content from style" was a big thing back when csszengarden.com was making rounds, but that all is long forgotten in the name of angularreactnodecrap. Accessibility? Give me a break, how many web sites do even work without JS enabled? I am not sure about Android, but iOS has a great accessibility support.

It’s a common misconception that Javascript precludes accessibility. JS can in many ways help accessibility if done considerately.

Re: Show HN: %%30%30: A Game

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post #28

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"They just launch 'as if' they were native." That's a pretty big benefit to most end-users.

I don't know why you're getting downvoted. I've seen studies that say 80% of users prefer apps over the mobile web. I know I've certainly seen an almost hostile attitude towards web app offerings over native app versions. And it all seems to boil down to one thing. You can get good-enough access to just about everything on the phone through an HTML5 app--certainly enough for a large proportion of apps--except for "in…

> I don't know why you're getting downvoted.

"A is not B"

"but A has C properties"

Native apps are not defined in terms of having benefits; they have specific technical characteristics that embedded webpages just don't have. So the fact that embedded webpages may or may not have benefits is irrelevant to the statement that they are just not native apps. I guess that's where downvoters are coming from.

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The game doesn't "work" on microsoft edge but the brower doesnt recognize the Stanford links[0] , it is not possible to copy them by right clicking. Going directly to the page by copy/pasting the url doesn't even load the website. IE doesn't seem to understand the url as well. The only brower I've tried that manages to get a page is firefox[1] [0] http://www.stanford.edu/%%30%30 [1] http://i.imgur.com/nEDgBrq.png

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Re: Show HN: %%30%30: A Game

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> Attributes like a11y, embeddability, composability, and effective resource sharing tend to simply fall out of well-designed platforms. The web has an effective answer for none of these desirable concerns. ...what? The web is better than most native platforms in these. The web is accessible. It has many features for screen readers and such, but more importantly, it is inherently flexible and allows content's form to…

Alas, all the benefits you list are just possibilities, not the reality. "separation of content from style" was a big thing back when csszengarden.com was making rounds, but that all is long forgotten in the name of angularreactnodecrap. Accessibility? Give me a break, how many web sites do even work without JS enabled? I am not sure about Android, but iOS has a great accessibility support.

Separating style and content isn't dead. It's more popular than ever. HTML5 has brought in new semantic markup and discouraged presentational markup. Most sites even today work fine without CSS.

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The game doesn't "work" on microsoft edge but the brower doesnt recognize the Stanford links[0] , it is not possible to copy them by right clicking. Going directly to the page by copy/pasting the url doesn't even load the website. IE doesn't seem to understand the url as well. The only brower I've tried that manages to get a page is firefox[1] [0] http://www.stanford.edu/%%30%30 [1] http://i.imgur.com/nEDgBrq.png

Old Opera 12.17 (last version that still allows specifying a different proxy than the system one, afaics) shows the same page as Firefox. Elinks does as well.
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