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Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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This makes me wish we had extensions in Chrome on Android. uBlock would be very welcome.

Firefox on Android works great with uBlock Origin. Support open source!

I noticed a great difference on my 2011 Google Nexus 3 between adblock and uBlock Origin, in terms of memory usage.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

Case in point, regarding /good/ advertising: Project Wonderful. I'm happy to whitelist their ads, as I've discovered quite a number of good webcomics through them.

Yet, such genuine targeting (not blindly matching keywords) seems to've attracted little attention from the ad industry - instead, all we get is more AdWords (unintrusive, just fairly useless, and occasionally amusingly inappropriate) and the likes of Outbrain (responsible for the "From Around the Web" ads).

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

> I am curious how this will impact the web. It will make Google (the only ad company that actually outright steals personal data instead of acting nice and building Bayesian models) into a monopoly. You can't adblock the Google. (Obviously I'm exaggerating for emotional impact, but the basic gist is true. This is not a good development for privacy on the Internet!)

> You can't adblock the Google.

Why not? I generally don't use Google services (certainly not their search), and (currently) Ghostery extension for Safari. I don't remember the last time I saw an ad, from any network, but certainly not Google.

Your earlier comment "you can't block .google.com" also doesn't really mean much, because ads on third-party sites are served from adclick.net and google-syndication.com - not from google.com.

Even if they changed that practice, and started using google.com to serve their ads - I'd happily block it. I don't want them to track me anonymously so why would I give them my information willingly by using their services?

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

This is a major problem that we are trying to solve with our app, Ad Control. Unfortunately the app is still waiting for review but it should be in the App Store soon.

Here is our Open letter regarding this concern, and our solution: http://blog.adcontrolapp.com/post/128643445264/open-letter

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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data already exists. apple is very late to the game and has a relatively tiny market share when compared all browser usage among all platform when including desktop.

Care to provide your figures?

https://pagefair.com/press_release/pagefair-2015-report/ literally first link on google

also, browser share: http://gs.statcounter.com/#all-browser-ww-monthly-201408-201...

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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So use an ad network that doesn't unnecessarily track me across the entire web, destroy my battery life, and make reading content (particularly on mobile) a game of 'find the article' amongst the shit storm of ads. The number of things that everyday sites embed in their pages is phenomenal. The Ghostery extension gives a good idea about how much crap gets loaded. In an article about content blockers, http://www.imore…

You have no idea about ad network at all. "unnecessarily track"? Tracking is the only way to make the ad relevant to you and increase the ad's value so you actually see fewer ads and those ads fund better content. Without any tracking, you gonna see at least tripled amount of ads on the most popular websites today in order to generate same amount of revenue. And BTW, everything between "you land on a webpage" and "ad…

Magazines and bus stop ads have worked for decades without knowing more about me than that I read a particular magazine for example. Small time outlets didn't advertise in magazines and bus stops in the past, so it's quite likely that small blogs and similar outlets with less than (say) a few hundred thousand unique visitors per day will no longer be able to support themselves via advertising, even to just cover hosting. The solution will be to aggregate into larger networks (medium etc) or rely on donations/subscriptions/affiliate links etc.

I don't want "targeted" "relevant" ads related to what I wrote on Facebook yesterday or what I googled last Tuesday. Ever. I'll just have to live with whatever content people can afford to show me without such ads. I really don't feel sorry for any ad network or any site that used them.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I am curious how this will impact the web. Ads are the only revenue stream for most of the sites. Blocking ads is good for user experience but when you think from publishers site how will they survive? "I like ads because I can support people I like without even spending a dime" said one of my friends. I cannot agree more because there are plenty of people on mid and small scale try to earn living with the content th…

The impact is the same as when mail started to block spam. There will be a initial decrease and complain, followed by change to more professional behavior in the industry.

For example, mail news letter used to be sent out in mass to any email that the company has harvested. That tactic is now illegal, so they only send out to customers who has subscribed to it and the letter must have instructions on how to unsubscripted.

However, your friend do not actually support people if they don't also click on the ads and buy the products. Money don't get magically created, and people need to buy products before any content creator can get get compensated for supplying advertisement.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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I guess that a fart app should probably not cost anything since it's quite useless, but I do believe that it's a problem that on day one of a whole new App Store category, the first app launched, Crystal (it appeared hours before Purify and Peace for me anyways) is a free app. That's how you make mobile apps an unsustainable business. I don't know how much work has gone into making these content blocker apps, but I b…

You assume that every app developer is out to make money. This is not more true than that every PC application developer is out to make money. Some people make free software and gives it away for free. That's not a race to the bottom, unless you think Linux being free is a race to the bottom against Windows.

For some reason AppStore has surprisingly low amount of free software. It's either free with ads, free with in-app purchases or paid. Or free software missing marketing and it's hard to find it in AppStore or popular ratings.

Is there some compilation of free software links?

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Why not give Firefox a try then? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.fi...

Three reasons: I want my stuff synced with my desktop running Chrome and it's horrible to use and drinks battery. (I have already tried it)

Is your device rooted? If so, install AdAway (from the fdroid repo) or a similar host-based blocker. This takes care of a large part of the ad-related misery. I do run Firefox (well, Fennec, really, minus the obnoxious bits which Mozilla has been slipping in recently) on a 4 year old Motorola Defy. The battery lasts for about 5 days so I don't think that bit about FF 'drink[ing] battery' is correct, at least not in my case. I do not have uBlock (or any other blocker) installed as the hosts-based solution is sufficient for now.

Re: Crystal – iOS 9 ad blocker

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Three reasons: I want my stuff synced with my desktop running Chrome and it's horrible to use and drinks battery. (I have already tried it)

Is your device rooted? If so, install AdAway (from the fdroid repo) or a similar host-based blocker. This takes care of a large part of the ad-related misery. I do run Firefox (well, Fennec, really, minus the obnoxious bits which Mozilla has been slipping in recently) on a 4 year old Motorola Defy. The battery lasts for about 5 days so I don't think that bit about FF 'drink[ing] battery' is correct, at least not in m…

No it's not rooted and I can't deploy our device policy on rooted devices (this is a company phone; a moto g 3rd gen).

I had terrible battery problems on a moto g2 about a year ago which is what I'm basing my opinion on so that may be invalid now.

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