Google Found Guilty of ‘Abusing Dominant Market Position’ in Russia • Hacker News Board

Re: Google Found Guilty of ‘Abusing Dominant Market Position’ in Russia

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Post by aianus » Tue, Sep 15, 2015, 8:22 PM UTC

piyush_soni wrote: post #80

aianus wrote: post #59

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If they were so great they wouldn't have to force themselves onto consumers by bundling their crapware into carrier sponsored phones. Not to mention $10B is probably less than the amount Google alone has spent developing and promoting Android. Please explain how their direct competitor should be entitled to piggy back on that work for free. Edit: apparently they even have their own 'Yandex Browser' based on Chromium.…

Ignoring other things, there is no shame in forking and developing an Open Source project on one's own (license permitting, which the Chromium's BSD license does). That's the whole purpose of Open Source projects.

It's legal, sure, but it's shameless and wrong to take an open source project built by your competitor, change the branding to yours, bundle it with crapware, and pretend you're innovating.

Re: Google Found Guilty of ‘Abusing Dominant Market Position’ in Russia

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Post by gress » Tue, Sep 15, 2015, 9:51 PM UTC

unprepare wrote: post #78

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #60

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It's not a search monopoly, it's an Android monopoly. And they're abusing that monopoly to increase their market share in search. You're looking at the wrong monopoly!

They cant have a monopoly on their own product, thats ludicrous. 'apple has a monopoly on the iphone' 'GM has a monopoly on cadillac' 'BMW has a monopoly on the 3-series' Of course they have a 'monopoly' on android, android is their product. Android has captured 64%[0] of the smartphone market in russia, this is again not a monopoly. A monopoly would capture 100% of the market, thats the definition of a monopoly. I'm…

The definition of a monopoly is not capturing 100% of the market.

Re: Google Found Guilty of ‘Abusing Dominant Market Position’ in Russia

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Post by piyush_soni » Thu, Sep 17, 2015, 9:18 PM UTC

aianus wrote: post #81

piyush_soni wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring other things, there is no shame in forking and developing an Open Source project on one's own (license permitting, which the Chromium's BSD license does). That's the whole purpose of Open Source projects.

It's legal, sure, but it's shameless and wrong to take an open source project built by your competitor, change the branding to yours, bundle it with crapware, and pretend you're innovating.

That's what I was saying. Open source projects are _meant to be_ forked and rebranded. There is nothing to be ashamed of here, license granting.

Re: Google Found Guilty of ‘Abusing Dominant Market Position’ in Russia

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Sep 21, 2015, 6:02 PM UTC

gress wrote: post #82

unprepare wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They cant have a monopoly on their own product, thats ludicrous. 'apple has a monopoly on the iphone' 'GM has a monopoly on cadillac' 'BMW has a monopoly on the 3-series' Of course they have a 'monopoly' on android, android is their product. Android has captured 64%[0] of the smartphone market in russia, this is again not a monopoly. A monopoly would capture 100% of the market, thats the definition of a monopoly. I'm…

The definition of a monopoly is not capturing 100% of the market.

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