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Re: Refugees Welcome

#81
post #42

Maybe if the great powers weren't so busy playing geo-political chess by proxy there wouldn't be so many refugees. Syria was fairly stable before the west decided Assad should go. Syria was fairly stable before the west destabilized Iraq. This is the problem.

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Re: Refugees Welcome

#82
post #77
post #29

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Why cares who's responsible? They're humans. Arn't we all responsible for all humans on the planet?

Why would I be responsible for people I don't even know? If I help somebody it's out of kindness, not responsibility.

Thankyou. That's my point. Who cares? We can still help them out of kindness and unconditionally, not expecting anything back.

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#83
post #23

It "amazes" me why these "refugees" flock to Germany or Great Britain and not to their very wealthy brethren in countries such as Kuwaii, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Arab Emirates, etc... Same culture, same religion and they are much closer! It also amazes me why the EU leaders insist for other European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all…

Actually Europe is very much responsible, only a small percentage flees to our countries and the reason is clear: People at least think that life in Europe is much better and in some cases they are correct. Please learn about the situation and not just judge it.

Re: Refugees Welcome

#84

Your strange scrolling webpage makes it hard to read the actual content without scrolling past. Why do people insist on using this broken scrolling behaviour.

Scrolling works totally fine for me here.

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#85
post #15

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That's an ad hominem. Rather than debating the merits of his suggestion, you're attacking his person. Furthermore, it's not unreasonable for people living in one country to have opinions on the policies of others, especially when it's something like taking in refugees which has strong influences on a global scale.

He's not attacking his person and it's not ad-hominem, he's saying the guy is basically a moral hazard, he is advocating for policies here that he won't have to suffer the consequences of.

You are a MORAL HAZARD. That is not an ad-hominem. But seriously, I thought we all share the same planet and thus share the consequences.

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#86
post #23

It "amazes" me why these "refugees" flock to Germany or Great Britain and not to their very wealthy brethren in countries such as Kuwaii, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Arab Emirates, etc... Same culture, same religion and they are much closer! It also amazes me why the EU leaders insist for other European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all…

This completely false. Five countries neighboring Syria - Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey, Iraq and Egypt - host 97% of the refugees. Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan have taken in 3 million refugees.

Egypt and Iraq have another 200,000 are much poorer than Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan and have taken in 200,000 which is more than all of Europe combined.

Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and UAE refuse to take in refugees in large numbers. They are also known for horrible human rights abuses. It would be foolish to attempt to go to these countries as a refugee.

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#87
post #53
post #23

It "amazes" me why these "refugees" flock to Germany or Great Britain and not to their very wealthy brethren in countries such as Kuwaii, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Arab Emirates, etc... Same culture, same religion and they are much closer! It also amazes me why the EU leaders insist for other European countries to accept these "refugees" when the majority of EU countries is not responsible for this situation at all…

If you are fleeing from ISIS why, for heaven's sake, would you go to Saudi Arabia?

hahahahah

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#88

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugees_of_the_Syrian_Civil_W... Their nearby brethren have already taken in MILLIONS of refugees. It took only a few hundred thousand in Europe for the media circus to begin and for their plight to be put in the spotlight.

Lebanon took a million and a half or thereabouts.

Jordan and Turkey also absorbed massive refugees. But the ones making to Europe are industrious and economically sophisticated, they are in it for more than personal/family safety. If you are educated and industrious why would you accept squalor conditions in refugee camp, if I were them I would do the same. The irony is ISIS's propaganda heavily relies on Europe born second generation Immigrants.

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#89
post #71
post #55

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edit: accidentally submitted too early, sorry. Syria was fairly stable until its people made demands and their leader responded with gun fire. Not sure where you see the role of "the West" in that escalation. Do you think the problem was that the West sneakily infected Syrian people with the absurd idea that they could have the same rights as people elsewhere? Or maybe that the West failed to support Syrian rebels wh…

Most Syrians supported Assad. Also, many of the militant revolutionaries were imported from other countries and supported/trained by foreign powers including the gulf states. Now we have ISIS which is simply an extension of that program that has maybe gotten a bit out of control. Foreign meddling caused this problem. Very simply.

> Most Syrians supported Assad.

That's interesting. When exactly and according to what survey did most Syrians support Assad? Do they still support him today or if not, when did they stop?

Re: Refugees Welcome

#90
post #54

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True - there's still ways of helping without that. But what's the fear about letting refugees into the country? Why are people so scared of this? (genuine question =)) It seems to me the only countries whom are scared are the ones who think they're the best, greatest and fear loosing that status. This sounds like idk...country ego? lol.

> Why cares who's responsible? They're humans. Arn't we all responsible for all humans on the planet? How many homeless people do you let crash at your place each night?

Caseysoftware - i've had exactly three people crash at my house who were homeless strangers. Only for a few nights each.

I have also got chatting to a homeless dude who turned out to be an artist. He carried on a pen drive pictures he'd created over the last few years but he had no computer access and no way to get them. I said i'd take a look and the next day went into a shop and printed every single picture, paid for it and gave it to him.

I have no problem giving to strangers and not getting anything in return. I get something back naturally, I feel happier that they are happier.

Hence i'm in the process of starting a social enterprise =).

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