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Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by meerita »

mdo wrote: post #27
bluetidepro wrote: post #22

One amazing thing to note is that in v3.3.5 (last stable) bootstrap.min.css was at ~123kb. The new 4.0.0 alpha bootstrap.min.css is at ~88kb. WOW. That's just amazing. Congrats to everyone who worked on this project. I'm always so impressed with the work done on it! Also, I want to add, I don't care where you land on the side of the debate whether to use Bootstrap or not, there is some very smart minds behind the pro…

Thanks for noticing! :) I spent a lot of time deleting stuff lol. Still more to optimize around though as we work through the alphas.

Any plan to support BEM?

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by mdo »

luiz-pv9 wrote: post #33
bluetidepro wrote: post #22

One amazing thing to note is that in v3.3.5 (last stable) bootstrap.min.css was at ~123kb. The new 4.0.0 alpha bootstrap.min.css is at ~88kb. WOW. That's just amazing. Congrats to everyone who worked on this project. I'm always so impressed with the work done on it! Also, I want to add, I don't care where you land on the side of the debate whether to use Bootstrap or not, there is some very smart minds behind the pro…

"Dropping support for IE8 means we can take advantage of the best parts of CSS without being held back with CSS hacks or fallbacks". This sure contributed to reducing the size.

We had so few IE8 specific hacks. I don't think it really made a large impact honestly.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by scott_karana »

luiz-pv9 wrote: post #33
bluetidepro wrote: post #22

One amazing thing to note is that in v3.3.5 (last stable) bootstrap.min.css was at ~123kb. The new 4.0.0 alpha bootstrap.min.css is at ~88kb. WOW. That's just amazing. Congrats to everyone who worked on this project. I'm always so impressed with the work done on it! Also, I want to add, I don't care where you land on the side of the debate whether to use Bootstrap or not, there is some very smart minds behind the pro…

"Dropping support for IE8 means we can take advantage of the best parts of CSS without being held back with CSS hacks or fallbacks". This sure contributed to reducing the size.

Similarly, jQuery 2 shrunk 12% because of cutting out IE≤8 hacks: http://blog.jquery.com/2013/04/18/jquery-2-0-released/

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by mdo »

joeblau wrote: post #80

@mdo - Thanks for continuing the great work on this framework. I just listened to the Design Details podcast [1] with you on it and it was great to hear about the evolution of the project (And where the purple came from). [1] - http://spec.fm/show/design-details/14701

Hah, happy to hear that. Thanks!

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by mdo »

bpyne wrote: post #15

I'm a Boostrap lightweight, but I always respect an organization willing to drop support for old technology (IE8) and rewrite libraries with an improved technology (ES6).

Hell yeah, we love doing it. Keeps us fresh and interested in the ongoing development of the project and helps push other folks forward with new web patterns, tech, etc.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by mdo »

CircleJerk wrote: post #61

I'm launching a not-so-critical thing in 2 or 3 months, currently using Bootstrap 3. Is it safe to adopt 4 right now, to be more future-proof? I don't mind bugs that eventually will be fixed but is the API stable enough?

Definitely not. We're in the alpha stage. Things won't be locked in until maybe beta, but for sure the release candidates.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

#87

Post by scott_karana »

ramigb wrote: post #39

4 major versions and still not official direction support! that's why i use Foundation because it offers RTL support out of the box.

Blimey, that is an omission.

I always liked that Bootstrap 3 was so inclusive of screenreaders, and as a LTR reader, would never have guessed that RTL support wasn't there if you hadn't pointed it out.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by mdo »

TheGRS wrote: post #25

I am very new to Bootstrap, but it has been such an easy tool to get a website professional-looking in no time at all. Great to see all these improvements from such a young library.

Thanks! <3
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