Earlier quoted context omitted.
So basically what Canadians and Europeans get?
It's paid by the government over there, not the company. Not sure about different places in Europe, but it's also not paid at 100% (at least in Canada)
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Netflix Announces Its New ‘Unlimited’ Maternity and Paternity Leave Program
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#82I'm highly suspicious of "unlimited" vacation or leave policies because the line between reasonable and not is still there, it's just way less visible and ultimately arbitrary, depending on your management chain and workload. I can't wait for this fad to die. Let's just have generous, well-defined leave policies that don't put the onus on the employee to figure out what is OK and what isn't. "Experience shows people…
I think unlimited with a minimum is really the solution. Without a minimum people are reluctant to take time off from what I've seen and read.
We have a 10-day minimum here at Khan Academy, with unlimited PTO. It's also communicated to us that the average is 20-30 days.
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#83I don't see why it's your employer's job to subsidize the birth of your children with paid maternity/paternity leave.
Why not just pay everyone more and those who want children can use the extra to save up to take a year off work?
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think unlimited with a minimum is really the solution. Without a minimum people are reluctant to take time off from what I've seen and read.
I've seen places that have that minimum be mandatory. As in, if you haven't taken a vacation by a certain time, they will insist, even go so far as restricting access until the vacation is over. The great thing about a mandatory minimum (never thought I'd be saying those words), is that it doesn't allow someone to over work themselves into a frenzy, making everyone else look lazy, while simultaneously burning themsel…
It's also a somewhat hilarious contrast to those companies who take away your vacation time if you don't use it within a certain time period (often just 1 year).
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#85I don't see why it's your employer's job to subsidize the birth of your children with paid maternity/paternity leave. Why not just pay everyone more and those who want children can use the extra to save up to take a year off work?
In most countries (that you'd want to raise a family in), it is the job of the government to ensure employers make allowances for child rearing - an activity some consider indispensable.
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#86I've seen quite a few reactions to the Netflix unlimited PTO policy that are similar to the reactions to the new Maternity and Paternity policy. Many of these opinions are the likes of: * "I'm suspicious of this." * "No one takes any vacation at Netflix because of this." * "Unlimited == None" * "Peer pressure means that everyone works 52 weeks a year." * "Without a PTO policy you can't cash out unused vacation. This…
Thanks for sharing an honest 1st party perspective.
Would you mind clarifying on:
>"I'm pressured to take vacations."
Is that as a result of the following bullet around managers being taught to be a good example? Or is it because the day-to-day is stressful and the average hours are not even close to 9-5 so the pressure to take vacation is to combat burnout? (Not saying that is actually the case at Netflix, but I've heard of other places where the day-to-day was miserable, so they forced vacation to prevent burnout vs. solving the root issue of reducing overall workload, promoting true work/life balance throughout a given week, etc.)
Re: Netflix Announces Its New ‘Unlimited’ Maternity and Paternity Leave Program
#87I'm highly suspicious of "unlimited" vacation or leave policies because the line between reasonable and not is still there, it's just way less visible and ultimately arbitrary, depending on your management chain and workload. I can't wait for this fad to die. Let's just have generous, well-defined leave policies that don't put the onus on the employee to figure out what is OK and what isn't. "Experience shows people…
Are you an AT&T (or other) customer? Confused about the meaning of the word "unlimited"?
Just take it at face value:
adj. not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent.
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#88I don't see why it's your employer's job to subsidize the birth of your children with paid maternity/paternity leave. Why not just pay everyone more and those who want children can use the extra to save up to take a year off work?
Because they recognize that finding a job while having to take care of a 1 year old is a bit stressful, I think.
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#89"We want employees to have the flexibility and confidence to balance the needs of their growing families without worrying about work or finances ... Each employee ... works with their managers for coverage during their absences." So, the conversation could be just "Hey manager as per the new policy, I would like to be a full-time mum / dad for the next 12 months; will you arrange cover for me?" Is that right, no ques…
Funny enough, in Canada 1 year maternity leave is the standard for mothers. Paternity leave is less common, but it can usually be split from the mothers amount, or used in total if she doesn't work.
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#90I don't see why it's your employer's job to subsidize the birth of your children with paid maternity/paternity leave. Why not just pay everyone more and those who want children can use the extra to save up to take a year off work?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatocracy
Basically this. Why not just be open about it - those who don't end up working for the 'top' companies are at a considerable disadvantage.
This gives the power to these big corporations to bully their way around in all sorts of ways. The ridiculous Google hiring process is just one example of this.