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How long until we see a new ShowHN post : "Alternative to Hacker News" or "Why I coded my own HN alternative"
lamernews monocle etc etc Most interesting concept was the one where you needed an invite and everybody could see who had vouched for who. Can't remember the name and also found no one to ask for an invite ;-)
I have ~1900 karma so I'll be one of the endorsers ... but I am not sure I want to be. I think this is a very aggressive change and one that puts too much power in the hands of people like me. Just because I have enough free time to sit around and rack up HN Karma doesn't mean I should control the speech of other, newer users. Also I think the delay caused by waiting for endorsements on comments will really kill a lo…
I would suggest that the proposed damping system if introduced should be reviewed after a few months. I suspect however that the main effects will be qualitative and so hard to analyse. I have gained a lot from deeply forked comments where one person provides me with a fact or Web site.
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Sorry for being unclear. What I mean is that downvoting something because you disagree with it has always been legitimate on HN. I'm too lazy to dig up the many links where this was discussed, but the point is that if upvoting is a legit way to agree, then downvoting is a legit way to disagree. This is a good thing, because it provides a silent way to disagree when you don't have anything substantive to add to the di…
There is very little value in knowing that some people disagree with a comment, but there is tremendous value in learning other ideas. This is a bad policy.
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That might work... but only if people actually read that page. Given how few people look at /newest (as estimated by the fraction of votes which are cast before submissions hit the frontpage) I'm not optimistic. How about only placing comments into the "pending" purgatory if the submission they're attached to has received more than X comments in the past Y minutes? I assume it's the chatty discussions which you're co…
Let's see how much of a problem there is first. I wanted to start with the simplest possible thing. If it breaks in some cases I'll add stuff to fix those.
At least measure the results, including people who give up and go away. It doesn't take much frustration to discourage even an active user with cogent remarks. I can see the quality taking a dive when regulars are driven away.
My problem is with the not being able to post more comments while one is pending. I'm mostly a reader/lurker and only really comment on posts which really get me fired up. Now what happens when I'm taking 30 minutes in the morning to read HN and want to make 2/3 comments on a couple of different posts? Would I now only be able to comment on one and hope the others remained suitably visible for me to find them later? I really think blocking further comments while a user has a pending one is a terrible idea, and will only harm HN in the long run.
If you value this community please don't fire this mortar round into the midst of this thriving market of ideas, then ride off into the sunset. It has bad idea written all over it.
I know I'll get downvoted to hell for this reddit-like behaviour, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc Others have already stated the specific reasons why this isn't a good idea very clearly and concisely.
What do you think will happen? When it happens, what will happen next? Something will break. HN will tweak, fix, and iterate until nothing substantial is broken. It will be okay.
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Correction: it would require all users with over 1000 karma to read the comments of every post to HN. It seems like you are making the assumption that every user reads every post
If a comment isn't seen by many users with over 1000 karma then it isn't seen by many users period, and thus doesn't have much influence anyway.
Which means such topics are dead to HN. What remains? Something we can't predict right now, but I suspect it won't be what we want.
Someone who has a pending comment will have to wait till it goes live to post another. We're hoping that good comments will get endorsed so quickly that there won't be a noticeable delay. Is there some timeout? If not, commenting on a several-day-old thread will guarantee that you can never post another comment, since once threads drop off the front page it's not likely that many 1000+ karma users will even see those…
So, now that pg has killed HN, where do you guys suggest we gather ?