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Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by advisedwang »

AlexandrB wrote: post #167
askonomm wrote: post #139

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That's an overly optimistic view of things. For a lot of us GitHub is critical infrastructure, which if it goes down loses us and our customers money.

Boomer opinion but trusting third parties to be critical infrastructure, especially with no SLA in sight, will always end in tears. "The cloud" is very convenient, but its providers will never care about your infrastructure or your customers as much as you will.

Eeh, you always rely on someone else's infrastructure. Even if you are off cloud entirely and own your own datacenter, you still need peering/transit. You still need power (or at least fuel). You can't avoid depending on a DNS infrastructure.

Github does have an SLA: https://github.com/customer-terms/github-online-services-sla. But like virtually all SLAs, it's really just a token gesture. I have never seen an SLA that pays the losses you suffer due to the outage.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by fatal94 »

poisonborz wrote: post #762
ivanjermakov wrote: post #663

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PSA: git repo can be hosted without a "provider" and any ssh address is a valid origin url: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Setting-Up-... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIdBfjL62s

For which team would be a plain git server enough to manage a codebase?

The Linux kernel team

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by timcobb »

rurban wrote: post #700
unknownfuture wrote: post #685

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Weird, I've been told you can just throw AI at all your logs and metrics and it can magically solve all the things...

My blackest Monday today. Deepseek is off/too expensive, Claude tokens out for 3 days, kimi refuses, and Github down for the whole afternoon. Maybe I'll take the week off

Nvidia build might have DeepSeek capacity

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by bluerooibos »

ieie3366 wrote: post #100

To everyone who is angry: calm down. Github’s servers are constantly on fire as their usage increased something like 50x due to LLM sloppers pushing large amounts of trash code Unless you have a emergency hotfix (you don’t), go hit the gym or walk outside. If a work tool going down triggers you enough mentally to start angrily ranting online, it’s a sign you need to chill out and focus more on your health

> calm down

If people and companies are paying for critical infra they expect it to be available - it's not MY problem that their servers are on fire - last time I checked, having too much demand was a good problem to have and they've had over a year to fix it and come up with a plan.

I'm so glad I migrated to GitLab months ago.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by ivanjermakov »

poisonborz wrote: post #762
ivanjermakov wrote: post #663

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PSA: git repo can be hosted without a "provider" and any ssh address is a valid origin url: https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Setting-Up-... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuIdBfjL62s

For which team would be a plain git server enough to manage a codebase?

GitHub is a git server as a service.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by yndoendo »

dhruv3006 wrote: post #20

how long can they survive like this?

As the saying goes, 'No one gets fired for choosing Microsoft solutions'.

I've talked to a number people in IT and commonly found they use Linux or Mac at home, as their daily, and Windows only at work.

Talking one of the IT works in the company I work for, they were forced to move from GitLab to GitHub because the CTO wants Microsoft everywhere. When all you know are screwdrivers, a personal will gladly use them as a hammer, punch, ....

Back in my IT days, we were pushing for marbled solutions. Example, 50% of the computers have antivirus brand Y and 50% have antivirus brand Z. Or the Windows servers used a different antivirus solution than the desktop. I don't see this anymore in the industry. One basket and all eggs go inside.

Irony, I'm updating code so our main products no longer require Windows as the host OS.

You have to pay me to use Microsoft products and solutions.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by m0llusk »

mhitza wrote: post #692
unknownfuture wrote: post #653

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Doubly so given this is hardly a surprise. We've been on this trajectory for at least a couple of years now. They don't get to shrug, point at 10x volume, and act like they've been blindsided.

They had large increase in volume, and trying to move to Azure at the same time. I don't envy them for either work they need to do. But also don't feel pithy because it's Microslop, at the end of the day.

The end of the day is now.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by jeremyjh »

skydhash wrote: post #293
jeremyjh wrote: post #226

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Yes but on Earth every project needs a canonical main branch. Most also need a way to manage and review changes to that branch that all project members have direct access to.

It's on the project to decide which is canonical and export a read only accessible version. Change review only requires a communication medium (the patches are mostly plain text) and that can be done in a lot of way. As for merging those changes, it's an organizational issue.

If it’s on the project to determine their requirements, why are you doing it?

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by jeremyjh »

Sanzig wrote: post #272
jeremyjh wrote: post #226

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Yes but on Earth every project needs a canonical main branch. Most also need a way to manage and review changes to that branch that all project members have direct access to.

Gitea (and its popular fork, Forgejo) are very lightweight. You can easily stand up an instance on a cheap VPS.

Agreed. Just moved some of my projects to codefloe.com (Forgejo) this weekend. FYI - it provides a lot more than a link to git.

Re: Incident with Github.com [resolved]

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Post by grumple »

pera wrote: post #573
stingraycharles wrote: post #52

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I’m willing to give them a break as I’m assuming they have a lot of scaling problems due to the influx of LLM assisted coding. But maybe I’m wrong?

Save that for your local mom-and-pop store: Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar corporation with enough resources to, at the very least, provide a reliable service for enterprise clients. The "AI is using a lot of resources" excuse was maybe acceptable last year but not in Q3 2026.

If you use Azure you’d know they are definitely not able to scale up quickly. Tons of quotas and lack of availability.
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