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Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Not entirely safe even if you naturalize as they are now making noise about stripping citizenship[1] [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-administr...

They're doing this on the basis that crimes were committed before naturalization so therefore the N-400 submitted was fraudulent.

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I don't think it applies to folks on H or L visas. Wording from the site: "Nonimmigrants, like students, temporary workers, or people on tourist visas, come to the U.S. for a short time and for a specific purpose. Our system is designed for them to leave when their visit is over. Their visit should not function as the first step in the Green Card process. "

I'm not sure I share your optimism. What is a worker on an H-class visa, if not a "temporary worker"? I read this with the assumption that "nonimmigrant visa" applies to every category of visa listed here under "Nonimmigrant Visa Categories": https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/visa-inf...

If you read the actual policy (it’s on the ISCIS website), it specifically says dual-intent visa are appropriate for AOS in the US.

This is a pretty broad swath of immigrants - H visa (worker and family), L1 (corporate transfer and family) and K1/3 (spouses of US citizen or green card holder).

What this limits are the truly temporary visitors - tourists, students, etc

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This is just reckless without any responsibility. A number of people, especially in tech sector, legally stay in US while their GC is being processed. They have kids born in the USA. If such people were to leave USA to seek green card: - the kids must first get visas to their parent's countries - once reaching the other country, consular offices now have multi year wait lines for getting an appointment with a office…

cruelty is the point in case it wasn’t obvious

Yes and one step further: it is attention, ultimately to extract wealth.

Trump is a distractor and can make a whole country forget about . Passing a judge is a minor detail here.

Of course it is stupid to talent-leak your country but he just needs you to forget about $LATEST_SCANDAL. That's the value for him. Trump doesn't care about the future of US.

And distracting does not take skill. It only takes a mind poisoned to the core. He will throw anything in his chaos machine to extract wealth. And US has an endless supply of those juicy valuables and values that you can sacrifice and shed.

Let's see what next week has in store!

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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Unfortunately, I think this is the point. They want to push the needle so that even legal immigration is restricted or difficult (unless you happen to pay them directly) https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/23/us/politics/trump-legal-i...

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Yes and one step further: it is attention, ultimately to extract wealth.

Trump is a distractor and can make a whole country forget about . Passing a judge is a minor detail here.

Of course it is stupid to talent-leak your country but he just needs you to forget about $LATEST_SCANDAL. That's the value for him. Trump doesn't care about the future of US.

And distracting does not take skill. It only takes a mind poisoned to the core. He will throw anything in his chaos machine to extract wealth. And US has an endless supply of those juicy valuables and values that you can sacrifice and shed.

Let's see what next week has in store!

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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I support this. The United States is too crowded. I don't want to compete with all these new people for housing. American citizens really need to begin advocating for themselves. For their material interests.

Guess what? America's homebuilding is powered by immigrant workers. https://www.businessinsider.com/immigration-crackdown-housin...

Ah, the argument, "who will clean our toilets and make our tacos?"

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#796
I do not endorse this change in anyway, as it means breaking promises and assumptions which drove thousands to the shores of USA in the recent past.

Having said that, most commentators here, including me, might not have the full picture of the situation - the scale of influx of current immigration, quality, tactics and loopholes used, and goals (universities as visa machines) etc. USCIS might have a different picture they are looking at, than most of us here. They also might have better visibility of the future needs of the businesses here.

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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What about a spouse visa? It's insane. I just got married to my girlfriend, and she needs to go back to her home country and wait for years before getting a green card? It's crazy.

Yes, and if you move there, you lose “domicile” and no longer qualify to sponsor her but if you don’t visit her regularly, she’ll get RFE’d for “bonafide relationship proof” (since your name appears Indian just be aware they’re very quick to RFE at Mumbai immigrant dept)

Re: Green card seekers must leave U.S. to apply, Trump administration says

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To make sure this opinion is here:

The fact that they get to make this announcement is probably the biggest upside. Their base loves it. It makes people think they are doing something. There is an asymmetry in that if they quietly roll this back or it's blocked in court, it will generate only a tiny fraction of the publicity.

Probably not too controversial here to say that the economy wants these immigrants so good bet they'll keep getting hired.

It's a cruel strategy, but I think it's fair to say that it's far from certain it'll be a consistent one.

Don't let them troll you too much, stay strong.

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The most insane thing to me is that legal (non-asylum) immigration is somehow framed as a “moral” thing that nations do out of charity.

Its not: you get to directly address a shortage in your country without the burden of raising and training the person. Arguably, if you don’t mind morality, the immigrants are also easier to exploit. And all that + you get a free tax payer!

My reading is that Americans (but also other parts of the world) are 1) uneducated on this topic 2) racist and or xenophobic to the point of self sabotage.

Quite literally if county building was a video game where the xenophobia of the masses could be ignored, I would brain drain the shit out of every country, leaving myself stronger and the rest weaker.

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Wow. As someone who just went through this process myself (leaving the US to get a green card via consular processing), I can only hope they hire more people to handle the increased case load. You need a medical exam and there were only 2 people available in my country to do that, which added 2 months to my application time (where I could not return to the US)

If anything they are reducing staffing for these posts. Last I heard foreign service staff morale was at an all time low
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