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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by DivingForGold »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

If all the above is true, why didn't Sam & Co just replicate his product and offer their own improved version - - with security incorporated within ?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by Aperocky »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

Vibe coding is just a tool - same with programming languages and compilers.

The product being useful and well received by user and market is still the ultimate test. Whether something is vibe coded or not does not matter.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by chvid »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

Maybe think of this as a hiring of a marketer and tech influencer. And someone with the chops to create a viral product.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by fsniper »

latexr wrote: post #612
erikbye wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…

> you get hired for your proven ability to (…) No, you get hired for your perceived ability to (…) The world is full of Juliuses, which is a big reason everything sucks. https://ploum.net/2024-12-23-julius-en.html

I haven't seen that before. But it was really hard get to the end. Not because it's bad written or so, on the contrary is a very good piece. However the feeling is unfathomable. I hate Julius'es. More so I hate the managers blinded by Julius'es.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by dieortin »

Flockster wrote: post #774
imjonse wrote: post #590

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> a project that people want, do many people actually use openclaw (a two week old project IIUC) or is it just hyped up?

Judging by the Openrouter-Rankings it is No. 1 or 2 in token usage, depending on the view (daily, weekly, monthly).

Most LLM usage does not go through Openrouter. Most people access LLMs thorough ChatGPT, Gemini etc. apps, integrations into popular products…

The percentage of total tokens being handled by Openrouter is a tiny blip

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by dieortin »

bogtap82 wrote: post #550
bananaboy wrote: post #518

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There were some comments somewhere below about that virality being bought though. I don't know how true that is or where those commenters got their information. If you look at google trends though there is practically no mention of ClawdBot before around January 23, even though the project was released in November.

It was renamed many times. It was also called "clawdis" at one point, and prior to that "warelay," when it was simply a Whatsapp gateway for Claude Code. It was already gaining some momentum at that point but wouldn't reflect as search results for "Clawdbot," and especially wouldn't be visible on Google Trends when most of the conversation was on X/Github.

Even if the conversation was on other sites, people would still search for it.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by ho_schi »

eecc wrote: post #692
ho_schi wrote: post #655

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I’m rather sure *Airbus* will prefer a programmer which reads and writes reliable code. The programmer which delivers useful products is probably hired by Microsoft? Or worse, Boeing. Or Toyota. Some NTSB people or Michael Barr are happy to tell you details about the number of dead people they created. Restart braking to brake because our code failed. Or. One single sensor delivers wrong data. Let us put the trim dow…

OT: it's not the first time I see this grammatical mistake: "didn’t trained". Is it some accepted regional variation?

Thank you! I assume “didn’t train” is correct. Probably my favorite mistake! I like it when people point out mistakes, give me corrections, and explain why. The reason is crucial.

Maybe “hadn’t trained” is even better. Makes sense when ordering times. But I don’t trust LLMs an inch. It makes up options for git[1] and both GCC and CLANG are often immediately telling me that the LLM is lying.

Cookieengineer and illichosky are right.

[1] Considering that man pages exist, it shows how useless their harmful crawlers are.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by swiftcoder »

ghoblin wrote: post #688
ho_schi wrote: post #655

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I’m rather sure *Airbus* will prefer a programmer which reads and writes reliable code. The programmer which delivers useful products is probably hired by Microsoft? Or worse, Boeing. Or Toyota. Some NTSB people or Michael Barr are happy to tell you details about the number of dead people they created. Restart braking to brake because our code failed. Or. One single sensor delivers wrong data. Let us put the trim dow…

There are only so many safety-first companies and products. The vast majority of the economy isn't optimizing for safety

> There are only so many safety-first companies and products

There are only so many companies that think of themselves as safety-first. In practice, basically all companies work on things that should be safety-first.

Does your software store user data? Congrats, you are now on the hook for GDPR and a bunch of similar data handling regulations.

Does your software include a messaging component? You are now responsible for moderating abusive actors in your chat.

Does your software allow users to upload images? Now you are a potential distribution vector for CSAM.

And so on... safety isn't just for things which can cause immediate death and dismemberment

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

tabs_or_spaces wrote: post #504

I'm happy for the guy, but am I jealous as well? Well yes, and that's perfectly human. We have someone who vibe coded software with major security vulnerabilities. This is reported by many folks We also have someone who vibecoded without reading any of the code. This is self admitted by this person. We don't know how much of the github stars are bought. We don't know how many twitter followings/tweets are bought. The…

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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by PlatoIsADisease »

latexr wrote: post #612
erikbye wrote: post #537

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny to me how still so many don't realize you don't get hired for the best positions for being a 10x programmer who excels at hackerrank, you get hired for your proven ability to deliver useful products. Creativity, drive, vision, whatever. Code is a means to an end. If you're the type of programmer who thinks of yourself as just a programmer, and take pride in your secure code, ability to optimize functions a…

> you get hired for your proven ability to (…) No, you get hired for your perceived ability to (…) The world is full of Juliuses, which is a big reason everything sucks. https://ploum.net/2024-12-23-julius-en.html

Great article until the end when they talked about AI.
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