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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by dackdel »

tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

hope you get some money man. instead of just "oh you do FOSS, thank you" - fuck those guys.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by Ms-J »

This growing trend of accounts for everything enables the collection of all your data and attacks such as this gating your access behind sending in more personal info.

Your IDs and biometric data for most services is sent to multiple companies, governments, and who ever else comes asking, armed only with a piece of paper. It is never deleted. It is used to create a profile of you and your activities.

Never use an account if possible.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by rasz »

8xeh wrote: post #401

They'll have to "partner" with some company that's in the business of building a database of IDs and biometrics to do AI things with. Other companies in this space (Jumio) have a bad habit of ignoring privacy laws and will keep your information for years. I wouldn't mind showing my ID to a person (in person), but there's no way I'm letting some company get a scan of my ID or passport to store in some giant database t…

>They'll have to "partner" with some company that's in the business of building a database of IDs and biometrics to do AI things with.

Palantir? /s

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by heavyset_go »

devsda wrote: post #182
bovermyer wrote: post #163

Ignoring the implications of this for the moment, let me broach a related (and arguably more important) question: what do you do when you have multiple communities you interact with only on one platform, and suddenly that platform becomes intolerable for a subset of your community?

It is the same as what everyone did after the reddit fiasco i.e. protest, boycott, grudgingly use it while complaining and then finally accept the change. May be this discord episode will have better outcome for the masses.

I moved to Lemmy and it reminds me of 2006 era Reddit

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by edg5000 »

We need something vendor agnostic that still allows having a community. Something thats essentially a protocol like bitcoin, email, text, torrents. Probably some of this exists. Then there will be providers offering this a commodity, just like how email and hosting can be rented from any company with simmilar quality (kinda).

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by heavyset_go »

cedws wrote: post #615

I understand the frustration towards Discord, especially because this is a global rollout of a policy they're only required to enforce in specific countries, but it's IMO misdirected. They're likely trying to get ahead of the legislation. The way the winds are blowing indicates the Western governments that haven't already passed legislation mandating ID verification soon will. You can move to $ALT_PLATFORM but unless…

Platforms want this, they're happily implementing it because they'll get a mountain of data to train on and sell, and they'll finally get to sell their userbase as real monetizable humans to their partners.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by intellix »

anon_cow1111 wrote: post #239

It should go without saying but, *CANCEL YOUR NITRO SUBSCRIPTION NOW IF YOU'RE PAYING FOR ONE* (for whatever reason) This was just announced today and a flood of canceled payments within the next 24 hours are the easiest way to send a message. And also tell people on the servers you're on to do the same. It's not like they give you anything of real value for that money.

Cancelled. Was a right job trying to get in as it just refreshed everytime I tried on mobile. When I went to the site separately after clicking subscribe it magically let me in.

The cancel login flow didn't inform me that it found my login suspicious but the subscribe one did

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by heavyset_go »

asveikau wrote: post #223

I think she is a polarizing figure to some, but journalist Taylor Lorenz has been complaining about this sort of thing for a long time. She has been increasingly warning about a future in which we need to scan IDs for all of our online services, in the name of protecting kids. (With the obvious implications about that data leaking, governments using it to track dissidents, etc.)

She's great but also damned to be a Cassandra, unfortunately.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Post by shevy-java »

assimpleaspossi wrote: post #607
tabbott wrote: post #430

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

>>Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be I've been putting my pants on every morning for the last several years, had breakfast, gone to work, and come home without worrying about any current events in the USA and my life seems no different than 50 years ago except I have modern gadgets. Social media is not the world. In fact, it's 10% of what the real world is like and how…

That is not a good analysis because it insinuates that everything stays the same. This is clearly not the case. Besides - no matter whether in a democracy or in a dictatorship, almost everyone puts on pants.

It is also incorrect to confine this "merely" to social media. This is clearly government overreach. They want data from The People.

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