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Post by trueno »

instagraham wrote: post #662
jacquesm wrote: post #569

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet. But another year or two of progress on AI deepfakes and you will be talking to a bot and be none the wiser.

I find it odd that Americans aren't angrier about Russia running disinfo bot networks for over a decade now, building up to almost everything in the current cultural moment. Also odd that the tech behind this isn't more talked about. I lost the source but there was something about bot networks that could argue both sides of a topic to feign the illusion of a real debate - and this predated ChatGPT by many years. Big…

i have been screaming that this is possibly the #1 information systems problem/failure that has led us to where we are and i have seen no thought leaders or solutions emerge. it's imo the top impact vector and the most critical thing that must be addressed to take the foot off the gas. it's the other side of the double edged blade of open and free internet and we are so far beyond trusting that open and free on its own is going to naturally sort itself out. nothing is being done to combat this, everyone that has the wits and intelligence to problem solve in this arena is head down reading about the next claude code update. i'm terrified/hopeless tbh, this fucking sucks. i've always seen this as the number one thing that is destabilizing countries around the world. this shit is not contained to the US and other countries will follow our course in the coming years without efforts to solve for russia/iran/china and their damn ass bots. these things are way more sophisticated than people think and most people cannot discern the difference. they can and do simulate arguments in comment sections to play up a winning side in a believable way.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by koakuma-chan »

EngineerUSA wrote: post #186

Palantir is interesting. Founded by a closeted German, run by an Israeli operative, and a 3rd arm of the federal gov. I wish we could prosecute it in my lifetime for the numerous violations of privacy it undertakes, but the world does not work that way. The rich enjoy private jets subsidized by our hard-earned taxes, while violating ideals held by our Founding fathers (for what would Thiel or the current CEO know abo…

Where do their loyalties lie? In Germany and Israel?

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by assimpleaspossi »

dfdf2 wrote: post #619
tasty_freeze wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It reminds me of when Eric Schmidt, then CEO of google, tried that argument about people's worry of google collecting so much personal data. Some media outlet then published a bunch of personal information about Schmidt they had gathered using only google searches, including where he lives, his salary, his political donations, and where his kids went to school. Schmidt was not amused.

Eric Schmidt the rapist? https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/37457418/eric-schmidt-mistress... He's got a whole lotta people doing over-time trying to bury this.

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by self_awareness »

starkeeper wrote: post #303

Medicaide data is pretty much covered by HIPPA. So Evil. Also it seems like it is too late, even if a court says do not do it, they will anyway and get away with it since the supreme court rules the president is allowed to break the law. HELP I AM SOOOO F**NG ANGRY. Sorry I just don't have anywhere to safely put this rage.

> HELP I AM SOOOO F*NG ANGRY. Sorry I just don't have anywhere to safely put this rage.

I think you would benefit from someone to talk to about this.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by tj-teej »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

And (with a heavy dose of purposeful suspension of disbelief), if ICE does deport those people they've determined are "illegal", does anyone believe that the agency will scale down and stop? There will be new "enemies of the state"

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by randallsquared »

zimpenfish wrote: post #751
hwguy45 wrote: post #674

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> The massive Somali fraud had no evidence It's weird, then, that most of them (and it's, like, 60 Somalis out of 80k) were already on trial[0] a good month before ... > a random YouTuber started knocking on quality learing center doors "As of December 2025, subsequent investigations by state officials have not found evidence of fraud at the sites Shirley visited." Oh no, that doesn't sound like a "massive Somali fra…

> > The massive Somali fraud had no evidence

> It's weird, then, that most of them (and it's, like, 60 Somalis out of 80k) were already on trial[0] a good month before ..

Those trials are for a completely separate fraud!

In spite of some overlap between the supposed food distribution sites for Feeding Our Future and the recent childcare center fraud, they're actually not the same fraud, uh, "event".

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by midlander »

EngineerUSA wrote: post #186

Palantir is interesting. Founded by a closeted German, run by an Israeli operative, and a 3rd arm of the federal gov. I wish we could prosecute it in my lifetime for the numerous violations of privacy it undertakes, but the world does not work that way. The rich enjoy private jets subsidized by our hard-earned taxes, while violating ideals held by our Founding fathers (for what would Thiel or the current CEO know abo…

The irony of a post about Palantir working with ICE devolving into xenophobia about the founders of Palantir.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by matwood »

datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #768
matwood wrote: post #758

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people aren’t here for political topics. There was a time when SV and technology eschewed politics, but that time is long gone. You only have to look at how often all the big tech CEO's end up at random Whitehouse events to see how they are intimately intertwined now.

There has always been politics in SV, this is a weird rewriting of history. Presumably there’s so much pushback now because people are quite uncomfortable having to confront the fact that they may be the bad guys (even though they were probably the bad guys years ago as well).

> There has always been politics in SV, this is a weird rewriting of history.

Not rewriting at all.

Nien-hê Hsieh, a professor of business ethics at Harvard University says that in the 1990s, “there was a real reluctance or reticence to engage in Washington” from the leading tech companies of the day.

...

The early 2010s saw huge growth in lobbying spending by tech companies. A plateau in the late Obama years was followed by another steep increase once Trump took office. But in recent years some major players have slowed or even decreased their spending, suggesting that major corporations are becoming more sophisticated in their approach to wielding power on Capitol Hill.

https://www.newstatesman.com/business/companies/2021/02/reve...

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #792
EngineerUSA wrote: post #186

Palantir is interesting. Founded by a closeted German, run by an Israeli operative, and a 3rd arm of the federal gov. I wish we could prosecute it in my lifetime for the numerous violations of privacy it undertakes, but the world does not work that way. The rich enjoy private jets subsidized by our hard-earned taxes, while violating ideals held by our Founding fathers (for what would Thiel or the current CEO know abo…

Where do their loyalties lie? In Germany and Israel?

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