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The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by sandbags »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #94
nextos wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Tiger to Snow Leopard era was fantastic. Things were simple and worked. There was also a great boutique apps ecosystem. Right now, it seems that macOS is going through its enshittification phase, sadly.

> Tiger to Snow Leopard era was fantastic. Things were simple and worked Was it also great for developers? (Genuine question.)

Pretty much. Xcode was quirky but it still is. But the frameworks were well documented and 1 Cocoa book could get you a long way. I loved building Obj-C/Cocoa apps back then.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by nkotov »

iLemming wrote: post #185
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

By chance are you using any Logitech stuff? I have a similar issue and narrowed it down to one of the Logi Options taking focus away randomly.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by crucialfelix »

iLemming wrote: post #185
signal11 wrote: post #9

Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.

One of the most annoying things after installing Tahoe for me, that for no good reason an ordinary app would randomly lose its focus. In the midst of my typing. This is unbelievably preposterous and I just can't stop hating Apple for this crap. How the fuck this is acceptable? I just have no words. What makes it even worse that I couldn't even complain about it on their support pages - they just keep removing my comm…

Do you have a logitech mouse? If so you need to reinstall the logi and/or G Hub apps. The cert changed and that's what's causing it to fail and keep grabbing focus away. Incredibly strange bug.

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/37493733117847-Op...

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by crucialfelix »

vladvasiliu wrote: post #595
Avamander wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

External mice also suck with macOS though.

Depends on the mice. As a sibling says, Logitech mice with their drivers work great. The app isn't great and loads a boatload of javascript crap. Can't vouch for bettermouse, never tried it. Another option which sidesteps the Logi Options crap is Logitech "gaming" mice. These have an integrated memory that actually remembers the configuration set by the driver. So, you only have to put up with the shitty experience o…

The window losing focus but OP reports is due to this:

https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/37493733117847-Op...

Which would only happen if you are using it wireless.

It happened to me this morning.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by josh_p »

nkotov wrote: post #793

I wonder if it's because there's a hidden agenda of introducing a touch friendly interface where pixel perfection doesn't matter. Maybe the rumors are true about a touchscreen MacBook.

Even if this is true, it doesn't justify breaking the interface for keyboard/mouse users. They're big enough to handle both cases.

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by AlexandrB »

irusensei wrote: post #712

I've upgraded because I wanted to have access to the latest OS features but I got to admit I'm not a fan of the UI either. I have an M3 Max with 128GB and sometimes my computer UI feels sluggish. What is even going on? My biggest beef is there seems to be a lot of bugs in Safari. If I open Discord and switch tabs a few minutes later the tab is dead and a refresh doesn't work you need to retype the discord address aga…

> If I open Discord and switch tabs a few minutes later the tab is dead and a refresh doesn't work you need to retype the discord address again on the tab window.

I get this on iOS26 all the time and it's extremely annoying since I don't always have the correct URL. Can't make heads or tails of what triggers it (I don't use Discord).

Safari 26 slowly leaks something on older macOS releases and opening new tabs or typing into the address bar becomes unbearably slow after a while[1]. The best solution is to downgrade to Safari 18.6 - though this seems to only work on Intel Macs.

Basically a total mess. I don't want to upgrade my MacBook to 26, but Apple seems to be embracing some dark patterns in their update dialog and I'm worried I'm going to accidentally upgrade and enter a world of pain one day.

[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1nm534e/sluggish_saf...

Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe

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Post by concinds »

consp wrote: post #624
AkelaA wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also - as seen in that screenshot, had large, always visible scrollbars where it was easy to see how far down you were in a folder or document, and could easily click and drag to scroll to where you needed. Now in the service of minimalism we have scrollbars that consist of a thin, semi-transparent line that fades out after half a second and is nearly impossible to click and drag due to how small it is.

The scrollbar thing is a more widespread mess. I've seen plenty of apps (cross platform) which hide the scrollbar as a tiny grey bar only visible when scrolling. Which on some TN panels is neigh invisible... If I can't see the scrollbar there is no additional stuff to read. I'm now pretty sure this is apple's bad design leaking though to the rest of the world.

Apple scrollbars have never looked uglier. I would prefer them to always show but they're so ugly I keep it default. On Aqua they looked great! On Windows they're still great!
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